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Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #30 on: »
If the other person gets the NTO then the only options are to pay or make reps that they became owner after the alleged contravention.


Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #31 on: »
The NTO will be sent to the registered keeper as at the date of the contravention:

Notice to owner
20.—(1) Where—

(a)a penalty charge notice has been given with respect to a vehicle under regulation 9, and

(b)the period of 28 days specified in the penalty charge notice as the period within which the penalty charge is to be paid has expired without that charge being paid,

the enforcement authority concerned may serve a notice (a “notice to owner”) on the person who appears to it to have been the owner of the vehicle when the alleged contravention occurred.


OP, were you the registered keeper on 22 May and did the DVLA register give your current address?

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #32 on: »
Yes, I was registered keeper on the 22 May and DVLA have my correct address.

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #33 on: »
Then wait for the NTO.

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #34 on: »
No NTO received yet. How long do they take usually?

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #35 on: »
No real 'normally'. They have up to 6 months.


Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #36 on: »
But an NtO sent after 3 months is normally considered unfair at London Tribunals, The Stutory Guidance has this to say on serving a NtO : -

"The NtO may be issued 28 days after serving the penalty charge, and we expect authorities to send them within 56 days. The ultimate time limit, in exceptional circumstances, is 6 months [footnote 33] from the ‘relevant date’. There should be a very good reason for waiting that long to serve an NtO. The regulations set out the information that the NtO must [footnote 34] give."

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #37 on: »
Today, I received the NtO. Is it now a case of repeating my original appeal? Thanks.

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #38 on: »
Can someone please advise what I should do now?

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #39 on: »
You have the very late NtO, and as this means the discount option has gone, you submit reps on the basis that the NtO is extremely late and therefore an unfair demand for payment. If they refuse to cancel, you take them to London Tribunals. The council must then explain why the NtO is so late. A good reason is NOT lack of staff etc, it must be something exceptional. Not  doubt they'll think of some **** and Bull story to tell the adjudicator. Of course they may reoffer the discont to avoid adjudication.

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #40 on: »
The contravention did not occur.

The authority's burden in law is two-fold:

1. To prove that the car was parked adjacent to a footway lowered to meet the carriageway, and

2. That this exists for one of the statutory purposes, namely:

(i)assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,

(ii)assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or

(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway across the footway, cycle track or verge;

Clearly (i) does not apply because there is no corresponding dropped footway opposite.
Similarly, (ii) does not apply, neither has it been asserted by the authority, because there are no complementary cycle lanes, paths or segregated routes on the footway.

The authority must therefore establish that (iii) applies. But as the GSV snapshots show, whereas the footway being lowered at this point might have applied in the past this purpose ceased to subsist when the fence and vehicle opening mechanism were modified as stated in my informal representations.

As TMA 86(i) does not apply, I should be grateful if the authority would not belabour this in any response as it is not a relevant consideration.

The contravention did not occur and the PCN must be cancelled on these grounds.

In addition, I would refer the authority to this provision in the Secretary of State's statutory guidance:

Providing a quality service
The NtO may be issued 28 days after serving the penalty charge, and we expect authorities to send them within 56 days. The ultimate time limit, in exceptional circumstances, is 6 months [footnote 33] from the ‘relevant date’. There should be a very good reason for waiting that long to serve an NtO.


In this case the PCN was issued on 22 May and the NTO on 11 August an elapsed period of 81 days, 25 days longer than the guidance's recommendation. The authority is therefore required to give acceptable reasons for this delay without which grounds of 'procedural impropriety' could apply.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2025, 10:09:08 pm by H C Andersen »

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #41 on: »
An extra point I noted:

Further, the rear of the footway at that point is not dropped so there is no possible crossover for a vehicle in any case.

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #42 on: »
Thank you guys.

Re: parked over a dropped kerb but....
« Reply #43 on: »
Good news, it's a win and an apology.

They blamed a "CEO error"

Thanks to all for your help.