Author Topic: PCN - TfL - Entering a box junction - Great West Road / Windmill Road  (Read 978 times)

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Re: PCN - TfL - Entering a box junction - Great West Road / Windmill Road
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Your honesty does you credit but will see you losing.
In effect you are saying you followed the bus into the box and stopped because it did.
That is the contravention cited and fully made out.

The evidence is what will be used to prove or disprove the contravention so work on what can be seen, not what you know.
The video shows you entering the box behind the bus but seeming to be steering for the left hand lane.
The video shows you braking as you were steering.
It also shows a moving moped sneaking up the inside while you were braking.
So maybe should be phrased as was stopping due to the moped to be exact.
TBH I regard it as the stutter dance polite people do when trying to pass each other in a doorway.
Step left, step right, stop, after you, no after you.


At the end of the day, it is either grab the discount or be ready to take this to adjudication where an adjudicator will look at the video, listen to what you have to say and decide.
IMO, challenge now with the best light you can put on the evidence and that will be on the table at adjudication.
The less you try to justify each little movement, the less there is for anyone to pick holes in.

Re: PCN - TfL - Entering a box junction - Great West Road / Windmill Road
« Reply #16 on: »
I make representations against PCN number xxxxxxxxxxx on the grounds that

There was no contravention of a prescribed order.


As i turned left into great west rd from windmill rd my intended route was into the left hand lane. On checking my mirrors in preparation for the turn I became aware of a motorbike approaching on my left preventing me from continuing as planned. I opened up the steering allowing my vehicle to drift slightly to the right in order to prevent a probable accident with the motorbike,(they undertaking recklessly)

In preventing this potential accident i had to come to a stop within the confines of the box marking, this stop was however in order to avoid an accident. NOT because of stationary vehicles as the regulations regulations require

As such no contravention occurred and the PCN should now be cancelled

Try this The idea is not to overthink it and say to much but let TfL do the work (  they will reject anything you say anyway so you are just setting the field)

If it comes to appealing to the tribunal i will represent you if you wish
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Re: PCN - TfL - Entering a box junction - Great West Road / Windmill Road
« Reply #17 on: »
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On checking my mirrors in preparation for the turn
Better to say
"as I entered the box turning left I became aware......
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Re: PCN - TfL - Entering a box junction - Great West Road / Windmill Road
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On checking my mirrors in preparation for the turn
Better to say
"as I entered the box turning left I became aware......

I used that term as it indicates good practice but am not particularly bother whatever the Op feels comfortable with