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Hi,

I got back from holiday on Friday to find this PCN waiting for me courtesy of Lambeth. I have missed the lower penalty fine date already, as I was away with family over Christmas.

Any ideas on making representations on this one? The fine is a lot of money which we simply don't have right now!

I did a U-turn on the day, just past the sign, once I realised my mistake. However, it was perhaps too late, as I had already driven through the sign gate. The photos in the notice, don't show me turning around, but perhaps this is irrelevant as I'd already driven through the signed gate.

Not sure if I can do anything, but any help much appreciated!

T23








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Re: Lambeth, Moving Traffic Contravention, 53 j Rosendale Road (H) - Holiday Bummer!
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The still photos are taken from a video, and you can usually see it on their website. Can you please post a GSV link to the exact location, because Rosendale Road is very long, and it is a PITA to drive along it virtually in GSV to find ti.
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The website is the key as it will have wrong dates.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Lambeth, Moving Traffic Contravention, 53 j Rosendale Road (H) - Holiday Bummer!
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I’m not clear, Lambeth’s website has wrong dates?
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Not that I can be of help but I have exactly the same issue a day after you at the same spot. I have raised another request in the forum. It is really odd as to when this came in force and also once you realise the restriction there is very little you can do to correct your course of action.
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Quote from: t23 on January 06, 2026, 06:29:01 pm
I’m not clear, Lambeth’s website has wrong dates?

Work out the 14 days discount and cf. with the website page.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Work out the 14 days discount and cf. with the website page.

Sorry, I'm not clear what cf. means - should I go ahead and pay the 14 day discount fine? Or is there anything that can be done to appeal this PCN?

Thank you!
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Quote from: t23 on January 07, 2026, 07:07:15 am
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Work out the 14 days discount and cf. with the website page.

Sorry, I'm not clear what cf. means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cf.
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Ok, still no idea what cf. means - looks like informal appeal is the first step as I'm keen not to pay the next level of fine.
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Hello. cf just means compare in this context.

I am starting to draft a response for my case.

That I noticed is that the date on the website says 5dec while the paper PCN states 14 Dec. I believe this discrepancy counts as misleading/misinformation and as such the PCN should be invalid

(My assumption for now)
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Hi msym,

Thank you - I've just checked and sorry to hear you're having to deal with the same by the way.

My PCN states 16th Dec 2025 and the Lambeth website states:

First seen at Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:34
Issued at Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:34

Is there any guidance you've seen on how to make a representation on this basis?
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 06, 2026, 11:30:55 am
The website is the key as it will have wrong dates.

The website shows the correct date of the 4th Dec 2025 (i.e. this is when I was driving in that street) however, the date on the PCN that I received by post, states 16th/12/2025.

Does this give me grounds to make a representation and if so for what reason?

Thanks, T23
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The 4th Dec is the alleged contravention date, and the 16th Dec is the PCN date, and is and must be the date on whic it was posted, because all enforcement timescales are based on this date.  Under the LLA & TfL Act 2003, (see top of PCN), the council have 28 days to serve a postal PCN from contravention date.
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Ok, thanks - so it sounds like evrything is in order with the PCN. I just need to get on and pay the fine.
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