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Hi,

I'll be grateful for urgent assistance. I've got the pcn, the council rejected my informal representation. I have until today 22nd December to either make payment at the reduced rate or appeal.

My thoughts are I passed the traverse line and entered the priority area before the oncoming car arrived.

Please can you guys have a look at the vid and let me know what you think. I'm the black range rover behind the waitrose van.

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Thanks Richard. It should be public now?

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Yes it is, and a look reveals that you had passed the give-way line on your side of the bridge when the approaching vehicle, (that you couldn't see due to the bulk of the Waitrose van) had only just turned in to Salter's Hill. The council's position is that you should give way when a vehicle enters Salters Hill from the other direction which is total tosh. The give-way length is that lying between the give-way line on your side, and this sign on the other side: -
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This is just under 38 metres, and the distance from the give-way line to the entrance to Salters Hill from Gypsy Road is just under 79 metres, so there is 41 metres between the entrance to Salters Hill from Gypsy Road to the sign giving precedance. The speed limit here is 20 mph.  As you can see, they deliberately use a camera that squashes the perspective.

However, you can only test the matter at London Tribunals because this is such a 'nice little earner' they refuse all representations to make sure the money rolls in. They know that >95% of people getting a PCN here just cough up to get t h e discount, not knowing the law on locations like this, that are all over the UK, but ruthlessly enforced only in Lambeth.

What I suggest is you look at the London Tribunals Statutory Register  using Salters Hill as your search argument and look at the cases than come up.
London Tribunals holds separate statutory registers for appeal cases heard by the Environment and Traffic Adjudicators and the Road User Charging Adjudicators. The registers can be accessed through...
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Their website is also a magic key.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Thank you. I've put my appeal and cited 3 contentions.

1) A high sided vehicle obstructed my view.

2) I passed the transverse lines

3) the video evidence is not conclusive.

Is the hearing in person or via zoom/ Teams?

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Teams.
@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"