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Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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I make these formal representations against PCN

1. There was no contravention of a prescribed order because the signage in situ and accompanying plate a place directly after the turn on Rosendale Road, there is no advance signage to warn that this restriction is upcoming and by the time one is in a position to see the signs it is too late. Indeed, reading the exemption plate placed as it is impossible from a moving vehicle and to stop at the location in question would be inherently dangerous as would attempting to reverse back.

For these reasons the signage fails in its requirement under LATOR 1996 s18 to adequately inform the motorist.

2. A motorist must be given wholly correct information when to pay the reduced or full amounts sought. However, there is a clear disconnect between the law and what is stated on your website.

In light of the above, please cancel the PCN



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I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 08, 2026, 06:58:15 pm
I make these formal representations against PCN

1. There was no contravention of a prescribed order because the signage in situ and accompanying plate a place directly after the turn on Rosendale Road, there is no advance signage to warn that this restriction is upcoming and by the time one is in a position to see the signs it is too late. Indeed, reading the exemption plate placed as it is impossible from a moving vehicle and to stop at the location in question would be inherently dangerous as would attempting to reverse back.

For these reasons the signage fails in its requirement under LATOR 1996 s18 to adequately inform the motorist.

2. A motorist must be given wholly correct information when to pay the reduced or full amounts sought. However, there is a clear disconnect between the law and what is stated on your website.

In light of the above, please cancel the PCN


Thank you. I have sumbbitted the representation as you stated. Once i receive a response i will reply back.

thank you for the support. (lets hope for the best).

 
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Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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Can't wait.  :o
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 09, 2026, 06:07:06 pm
Can't wait.  :o

Dear Hippocrates,
I have an odd update retgarding this case. I have not formally received a response on my representation but:

- 9 Jan I sumbitted the representation
- 18 Feb I got another letter with the same PCN
- 24 Feb I checked the lambeth portal and the site was saying that representation has been received
- 13 Mar I checked the lambeth portal again and it now says to pay full amount or it will increase to £240 on 29March.

What do i do? Do i make new represenations again?

new screens on links below.


https://imgpile.com/p/NuhoA98#dhfxJ4S
https://imgpile.com/p/NuhoA98#n66nGqj

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Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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I'll take a look later as Lambeth's brains operate in mysterious ways.
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
« Reply #20 on: »
Sorry to go back on this, but have you actually received a PCN in your name from Lambeth?
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Quote from: tincombe on Today at 11:44:12 am
Sorry to go back on this, but have you actually received a PCN in your name from Lambeth?

Hello, valid point.
The first one was from the lease company that was accompanied with a  3rd party authorisation letter. I had assumed that this transferred the responsibility to me. Is that not the case. If this is indeed the issue then do I just make the same representations?

Thank you,
Marios
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Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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IMO, you may not make reps in your own name, unless you have a PCN in your own name.

You have no liability to the council if a PCN has not been issued to you. The most you are doing is the leg work for the RK.

The RK cannot 'transfer' liability under the guise of them having a hire agreement with you because there is no such agreement which BY LAW has to be of a prescribed form AND have a term no longer than 6 months.
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Quote from: tincombe on Today at 02:00:51 pm
IMO, you may not make reps in your own name, unless you have a PCN in your own name.

You have no liability to the council if a PCN has not been issued to you. The most you are doing is the leg work for the RK.

The RK cannot 'transfer' liability under the guise of them having a hire agreement with you because there is no such agreement which BY LAW has to be of a prescribed form AND have a term no longer than 6 months.


thank you for the response. WHat does this mean in practive? the second letter of this PCN is now under my name. Does this mean the first represenation was void and as such i need to go thorugh the process again?

Regards,
Marios
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Re: Lambeth, code 53j, failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
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the second letter of this PCN is now under my name

Sorry, but what 'letter'? Pl post.
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Quote from: tincombe on Today at 08:23:03 pm
the second letter of this PCN is now under my name

Sorry, but what 'letter'? Pl post.

Hello, please see below.
https://imgpile.com/p/NuhoA98#9kN7V8H
https://imgpile.com/p/NuhoA98#D3ze7hI

This is the one I received under my name.
There is another one that the lease company had received which is almost identical with the exception of the addressee and the date of penalty charge notice.

Thank you for the support
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