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I have recieved a PCN notice for making a right turn where there was a no right turn sign. This happened on April 22nd 2024.

I originally appealed the PCN as the CCTV evidence they provided did not show a no right turn sign. And I couldn't remember seeing one at the time.

However they have sent me a rejection letter with additional images of the road showing the 'no right turn sign'. These additional images of the road and road sign are from November 2023 from a different angle to the original cctv.

So I thought they've got me bang to rights (pardon the pun), but I thought to myself, I'm a competent driver and never had a traffic infringement or PCN in my 14 years of driving.

So I went back to the road to see how could I have made such a stupid error. There is indeed a 'no right turn sign' but I noticed there is a broken (facing the wrong way) road sign infront of it, it's a white forward arrow facing straight ahead, behind it is the no right turn sign. I must have approached the road and saw the first sign and thought it was fine to go straight ahead (what is classed as the right turn in this case).

I've taken images of the broken road sign that is facing the wrong way to submit as further evidence on how it's confusing with the no right turn sign behind it. But I wanted to see if there's anything in the legislation of the The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 for broken signs that could support me?

The reason for this is because the rejection letter states the signs are in accordance with  The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 but that can't be the case if theres a broken  sign causing confusion.

TL;DR: is there anything in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 for broken signs that can help me appeal my PCN? [ Guests cannot view attachments ]

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So I went back to the road to see how could I have made such a stupid error.

GSV shows your road joining a two-lane one-way carriageway signed by an advisory turn left road arrow, a regulatory white on blue arrow carrying the meaning 'Vehicular traffic must proceed in the direction indicated by the arrow'(in this case right to left), a regulatory 'no right turn for vehicular traffic' sign and an offset junction which meant that if a motorist wanted to join the left/right carriageway they'd have to turn across the right/left carriageway against the flow of traffic in order to reach the gap in the physical carriageway separation.

Or perhaps GSV is out of date and the advisory and regulatory signs have changed and the evident risk to traffic both right to left and left to right diminished if a vehicle from Broomfield attempted to drive in a direction other than turning left?

Perhaps there's a procedural issue with the PCN/enforcement process which might appear?

thanks I appreciate you taking the time to respond!

It's not that the bent sign obstructed my view, it's more that it caused confusion and I missed the NRT sign - sounds like I'll have to take the hit on this one though and be more vigilant in the future

First pcn attached.

My reply to it:

I'm contesting PCN HR74848590 concerning the alleged contravention: '50R - PERFORMING A PROHIBITED TURN - NO RIGHT TURN'. However, the provided images lack signage for 'NO RIGHT TURN'.

The signage depicted is for an 'Ahead only' sign (white arrow, blue background), intended for southbound traffic on A409 Station Road, not for traffic facing West from Bonnersfield Lane, which I was on. In the images, I'm exiting Bonnersfield Lane, not facing the 'Ahead Only' sign.

Furthermore, the contravention code 50R pertains to a 'no right turn' sign, which is absent in the provided evidence. It's crucial to note this discrepancy, as the offense alleged is not in alignment with the signage shown in the picture

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I would suggest that as you clearly cannot go straight on as the bent sign might be implying, that looking for other signs would have been the obvious action. but as  #Incandescent has pointed out the other signs are clearly visible so I also don't see this as a get out of jail card.

@Ross3bee please post up all pages of the PCN, and all pages of the notice of rejection. Your best bet with a case like this might be an issue with the paperwork, so we need to check it.

The traffic order is The Harrow (Prescribed Routes) (Harrow Town Centre) Traffic Order 2011.