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I think you have a very strong case to put in front of an adjudicator, but could we get the authority to fold before then, I wonder?

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On Sunday 1 June, I parked at the location which is a parking place situated opposite no. 53 Brockwell Park Gardens. There was a single traffic sign within the parking place which clearly stated the following:

Parking: Mon-Sat 7am - 7pm.

As it was a Sunday and in the absence of any other traffic signs to the contrary, parking was therefore unrestricted.

Nonetheless, a CEO issued a PCN.

The alleged contravention is: Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours. (temporary traffic order)

It is unarguable that the only traffic sign displayed did not convey a 'no waiting' restriction. It is therefore the authority's burden to prove that the alleged restriction(no waiting) was conveyed in accordance with regulatory requirements. These are as follows(Part III of the Schedule to The Road Traffic (Temporary Restrictions) Procedure Regulations 1992 refers):


                          PART III
                            TRAFFIC SIGNS

6.—(1) In this Part of the Schedule, “the authority”—

(a)in relation to an order, means the traffic authority who made the order;

(b)in relation to a notice issued under section 14(2) of the 1984 Act, means the traffic authority or the concesssionaire who issued the notice.

(2) In this Part of the Schedule, a reference to an instrument is a reference to an order or notice issued under section 14(2) of the 1984 Act as applicable.

7.  The authority shall take such steps as are necessary to secure—

(a)before the instrument comes into force, the placing on or near each road to which the instrument relates of such traffic signs in such positions as the authority may consider requisite for the purposes of securing that adequate information as to the effect of the instrument is made available to persons using the road;

(b)the maintenance of such signs so long as the instrument continues in force; and

(c)in a case where the instrument contains provisions suspending statutory provisions to which section 14(7) of the 1984 Act applies, such removal, replacement or covering up of existing traffic signs as the authority may consider requisite for the purpose of avoiding confusion to the users of the road.


Clearly, the authority have failed to satisfy 7(a) because there were no traffic signs conveying 'adequate information as to the effect of the instrument is made available to persons using the road'.

Similarly, the authority failed to satisfy 7(c) because at all times(and indeed still) the only existing traffic sign in the parking place was not 'removed, replaced or covered up'.

I would caution the authority against relying upon the single laminated A4 sheet blowing in the wind and attached at midriff height on the traffic sign post which I saw only after receiving the PCN. Not only is this not a 'traffic sign', its font size is so small as to make it unreadable. Its contents(which I have subsequently been able to retrieve online) relate only to the restriction and do not meet the authority's regulatory burden to place adequate 'traffic signs' and to avoid misleading motorists by failing to cover up the existing 'traffic sign'.

The PCN must be cancelled at the earliest stage and I look forward to your prompt confirmation.

Yours..
« Last Edit: June 03, 2025, 05:39:34 pm by H C Andersen »

Brilliant, thanks so much. Will give this a whirl.

Please screenshot their website re price status and increase etc.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Do you think it's better to appeal as above on the basis that The Traffic Management Order is invalid or due to procedural impropriety?

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Lo and behold the signs have since been covered and replaced with signs for the new traffic order

Take a photo(s) just in case.
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Do you think it's better to appeal as above on the basis that The Traffic Management Order is invalid or due to procedural impropriety?
When the time comes, everything is in play.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

https://imgur.com/a/CzBLSJA

Lambeth have rejected my appeal. They state that 'signage is present at the location and meet necessary requirements for enforcement action'. As stated above, there were no temporary traffic signs on the day and they have been unable to evidence any, respite their assertion. Furthermore, their website was still urging me to pay 80 quid even after I had submitted my appeal (see screenshot in earlier post).

I am awaiting the NTO to formally challenge.

https://imgur.com/a/CzBLSJA

Lambeth have rejected my appeal. They state that 'signage is present at the location and meet necessary requirements for enforcement action'. As stated above, there were no temporary traffic signs on the day and they have been unable to evidence any, respite their assertion. Furthermore, their website was still urging me to pay 80 quid even after I had submitted my appeal (see screenshot in earlier post).

I am awaiting the NTO to formally challenge.
What a load of utter tosh they write !

All London councils ruthlessly game the system to maximise the cash flow, so they refuse all informal representations knowing that >95% of people then cough up so they don't lose the discount. Most people know nothing about parking and traffic law enforcement, so won't take the risk of taking the matter further. If you are sure you are in the right, (having been confirmed in this forum), you just have to stand your ground and wait for the Notice to Owner.

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NTO received, though dated 18th July, I only saw it yesterday as just back from holiday so am a bit late to the party.


The full NTO pl.

And so that we're clear, you are the registered keeper, yes?

Anyway, NTO dated 18 July is deemed served Tues. 22nd therefore the 28-day periods end on 18 Aug.

https://imgur.com/a/ElSJTEt

My wife is actually the registered keeper but I was the driver at the time and made the initial appeal in my name.

Formal reps would have to be in her name. Is the NTO addressed to your wife and was their earlier rejection of your reps to you by name?

Earlier rejection addressed to me and NTO addressed to her confusingly. Maybe it's because I have previous with them in this car!