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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Can't see. But @astralite has assisted me. Thanks anyway.
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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Dear Sir or Madam

Dear Sir or Madam

Please may I have responses to the following?:

1. The exact measurements of parking bays in The Bittoms as per the attached photo.
2. The initial date the parking legends were placed.
3. The last time the parking legends were maintained at this location.
4. The exact measurements of similar parking bays in nearby streets as per the map.
5. Payment question: should a person pay and yet receive a PCN for whatever reason throughout the whole borough, do you reimburse? In particular, if the allegation is that they have parked beyond the parking bay lines.
6. If so, is this automatic or do people have to apply?
7. If the answer to the second part of  5 is yes, why does not the borough automatically refund the associated payments ?
8. Traffic Management Order: please provide this.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2025, 11:53:02 am by Hippocrates »
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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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The duty to consider fairly here is a factor. I'd take a pic of the baby in its carrier on the pavement and ask the adjudicator how they'd then repark the car assuming you even could see you were out of the bay having avoided the post by the door. I guess you'd put the baby by another door and start again but the space is what it is at the time and markings only possibly visible depending on other cars. 

I'd also ask what signage alerts you to parking in bay markings.

Plus the other things.

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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OP, you can ask questions as you wish. But this does not affect the enforcement process whose timetables must be followed.

With respect to Hippocrates, I think a council would not deal with this long list of items but instead IMO would be likely to treat the request as falling under FoI and respond that the cost to the authority of complying with this request exceeds the threshold:

Currently, the cost limit for complying with a [FoI] request or a linked series of requests from the same person or group is set at £600 for central government, Parliament and the armed forces and £450 for all other public authorities. You can refuse a request if you estimate that the cost of compliance would exceed this limit. This provision is found at section 12 of the Act.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/foi/guide-to-managing-an-foi-request/charging-a-fee-and-cost-limits/

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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What is that you suggest needs to get done? I wanted to see what are the consequences if Tribunal doesn’t cancel, how much would I pay then and what are other negatives? Does this affect a credit score if I lose?

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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If you lose you must pay £90 - that's it. If you don't pay they can escalate to bailiffs but there's no impact on financial status.

It's possible in this case you will lose but the adjudicator may make a non-binding recommendation to Kingston to cancel.

It is also possible that Kingston won't contest it and you win by default.

Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Does this affect a credit score if I lose?

NO. Stop worrying and trust that I will do my best for you. Now I am involved, I am saying nothing more until the case is decided.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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The duty to consider fairly here is a factor. I'd take a pic of the baby in its carrier on the pavement and ask the adjudicator how they'd then repark the car assuming you even could see you were out of the bay having avoided the post by the door. I guess you'd put the baby by another door and start again but the space is what it is at the time and markings only possibly visible depending on other cars. 

I'd also ask what signage alerts you to parking in bay markings.

Plus the other things.

All part of the game. ;D I tried to download the TMO yesterday to no avail. I may do it the old-fashioned way and visit a library!
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Going to the library tomorrow. Let's hope I don't get banned from there too as it's just up the road from The Coronation Hall.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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My e mail address for councils:

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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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TMO: The Kingston upon Thames (Parking, Waiting, Loading and Stopping Restrictions) Order

PART III

SECTION 1 - General

Article 10.

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Re: Kingston- 24 not parked correctly
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Yesterday: Havering case. 2250396006
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r