Author Topic: Newham, Code 01, Park Road E6 (Read 256 times)

EliteBoy8 · « **on:** December 20, 2025, 11:11:07 pm »

Hi all,

Today I've received a PCN today, at 19:16 on Park Road E6. I wanted to see if anything could be done about it? I parked on a single yellow - what happened was that where I parked legit across me was the parking sign which said Mon-Sat (8am-6.30pm), and because I parked after this time, I thought okay no problem. But on my pole behind me (at the time there were two vehicles parked behind me too) there was a small sign which mentioned specifically the restrictions for the yellow line.

Can anything be done? Would really appreciate help and advice, thank you very much!

Posted pics of the PCN and two pics from Newham website: https://postimg.cc/gallery/w7Vts5X

Exact location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Park+Rd,+London/@51.5365396,0.0375369,3a,75y,10.91h,65.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1ske3zbsA3OH1iOsyARFQWAA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D24.077888501492822%26panoid%3Dke3zbsA3OH1iOsyARFQWAA%26yaw%3D10.906674017991087!7i13312!8i6656!4m6!3m5!1s0x47d8a7b7e0f9aa87:0x8520927730e77b54!8m2!3d51.5358951!4d0.0368631!16s%2Fg%2F1vyxhp5k?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTIwOS4wIKXMDSoKLDEwMDc5MjA3MUgBUAM%3D

Incandescent · « **Reply #1 on:** December 21, 2025, 12:57:45 am »

Signs on the opposite side of the road never apply to where one parks. It is therefore essential to look for the sign for one's side, as the restrictions may be different on each side.

So why didn't you look for the sign on the same side ? Difficult to see any appeal argument on this one, I'm afraid.I suppose you could take it as a learning opportunity in Life's Rich Pageant. PCN penalties in London are outrageous, being double the rest of the UK.

stamfordman · « **Reply #2 on:** December 21, 2025, 11:48:45 am »

This is in the Upton Park controlled parking zone, which operates 8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat.

Where single yellows are not controlled by the CPZ they must have a timeplate as here but it's possible this is a rogue plate left over when Newham put in the CPZ.

We don't have access to Newham's traffic order map but it's worth challenging to ask them to provide proof the line has a current order extending its time to 8pm.

There seems to be no reason for this as single yellows on the main road end at 6.30pm.

EliteBoy8 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 21, 2025, 12:05:02 pm »

Quote from: stamfordman on December 21, 2025, 11:48:45 am

This is in the Upton Park controlled parking zone, which operates 8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat.

Where single yellows are not controlled by the CPZ they must have a timeplate as here but it's possible this is a rogue plate left over when Newham put in the CPZ.

We don't have access to Newham's traffic order map but it's worth challenging to ask them to provide proof the line has a current order extending its time to 8pm.

There seems to be no reason for this as single yellows on the main road end at 6.30pm.

Thank you for responding! Yes same, I lived in Upton for 8 years and on all the streets the restrictions end at 6.30pm, that's why I just checked looked across the street and saw the normal parking sign which stated (8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat), and thought I was good.

But I didn't know that on a pole a bit behind me there would be another sign, specifically for the single yellow.

As for what you mentioned - what exactly would I say to the council? And also, can i just double check - if they reject my claim, will I still be able to pay at the discounted rate (£80)?

Incandescent · « **Reply #4 on:** December 21, 2025, 09:11:32 pm »

Provided your informal challenge to the PCNis received within the discount period, a re-offer of the discount is normal. In fact if you look at the small print on your PCN, their may be a clause on it telling you this.

EliteBoy8 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2026, 08:11:28 pm »

Quote from: stamfordman on December 21, 2025, 11:48:45 am

This is in the Upton Park controlled parking zone, which operates 8am-6.30pm Mon-Sat.

Where single yellows are not controlled by the CPZ they must have a timeplate as here but it's possible this is a rogue plate left over when Newham put in the CPZ.

We don't have access to Newham's traffic order map but it's worth challenging to ask them to provide proof the line has a current order extending its time to 8pm.

There seems to be no reason for this as single yellows on the main road end at 6.30pm.

Hi just to provide an update on this. The council responded and rejected my appeal - they mentioned that the timeplate behind the vehicle showed 8am-8pm so the penalty stands. However, they did not provide proof for the TRO, and instead instructed me to file for a FOI.

I have done that, but at the end of the form it said it will take 20 working days to hear back. So, I will wait till the 12th day or so, if I hear back and there's proof that there is no valid TRO maybe we can do something? If not, I will just pay it and take it as a life lesson.

Let me know your thoughts, thanks for your help!

stamfordman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2026, 02:12:28 pm »

I think I'd wait for the NTO anyway as if it's all in order they'll probably reoffer the discount if they reject again owing to delay in the TMO (traffic management order in London).

Tag @mrmustard (for some reason tags don't work for me) or send an email to Mr Mustard to look at this thread as he may have a suggestion.
mrmustard@zoho.com

mrmustard · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2026, 02:24:57 pm »

You haven't provided your numberplate, a copy of exactly what you wrote or a copy of the informal rejection (with only the name and address covered up).

Once those are posted I will study your case.

stamfordman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2026, 02:35:22 pm »

Ah there you are - the tag did work.

As you've been talking to Newham can you ask if they'll give us a login to their Traffweb - it seems churlish to keep the public out when some other authorities don't such as Hackney.

https://newham.traffweb.app/login

EliteBoy8 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2026, 02:48:02 pm »

Quote from: mrmustard on January 09, 2026, 02:24:57 pm

You haven't provided your numberplate, a copy of exactly what you wrote or a copy of the informal rejection (with only the name and address covered up).

Once those are posted I will study your case.

Hi there,

Thank you for responding. Based on advice from stamfordman, I mainly tried to argue based on the fact that the council should provide proof that the specific single yellow line has a valid TRO extending it past 6.30pm.

I wrote this in my informal challenge:

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to challenge the above Penalty Charge Notice.

PCN number: PN24247946
Vehicle registration: T9JWC
Date and time of contravention: 20/12/2025 at 19:16
Location: Park Road, E6

The alleged contravention occurred within the Upton Park Controlled Parking Zone, which operates from 8:00am to 6:30pm, Monday to Saturday. When parking, I relied on the Controlled Parking Zone entry signage and the parking sign located opposite my vehicle, both of which indicated that parking restrictions ended at 6:30pm.

When I returned to my vehicle, I was surprised to see a Penalty Charge Notice. After reviewing the stated reason, I walked along the street and observed a single yellow line timeplate indicating that the restriction extends to 8:00pm. However, single yellow lines within a CPZ are ordinarily governed by the CPZ hours unless specifically exempted by a valid and current Traffic Management Order.

I therefore request that the council provide proof that this specific section of single yellow line is subject to a current Traffic Management Order which lawfully extends the restriction beyond the CPZ hours to 8:00pm.

In the absence of such an Order, the single yellow line should be governed by the CPZ operational hours, and the alleged contravention would not have occurred. On this basis, I respectfully request that the Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

They responded yesterday 7th January with the following:

Link: https://imgpile.com/p/YHzFkbF

stamfordman · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2026, 02:51:49 pm »

The idea that you have to file an FOI for a TMO under which they are enforcing a contravention is ridiculous. They'd have to produce the TMO at the tribunal.

EliteBoy8 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2026, 02:57:55 pm »

Quote from: stamfordman on January 09, 2026, 02:51:49 pm

The idea that you have to file an FOI for a TMO under which they are enforcing a contravention is ridiculous. They'd have to produce the TMO at the tribunal.

Yeah I thought so too, sounds unfair. I filled out FOI link asap, and they’ve said they will aim to respond by 6th February but it will be too late by then (the last day of the discount is 20th Jan).

mrmustard · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2026, 03:10:23 pm »

Probably quicker to email traffic.orders@newham.gov.uk for it.

Just ask for the order for the single yellows, don't mention a pcn.

Your request to parking was a valid one which they should have responded to, especially as it should be a 5 minute job to respond.

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