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I think the 28days area nearly up for the NTK, should I send what I have?
No as it is too combative. I would simply state that the contravention did not occur and I reiterate my original challenge which I require you to consider as my formal representations.

Ignore my point about the website for the time being.

The registered keeper must do this.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2024, 01:30:34 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

I'm glad you've lost my tongue-in-cheek para!

OP, my concern is that you haven't posted the NTO therefore we don't know its date of issue. The 28-day period begins on the date of service which is deemed to be 2 working days after posting and whether this is 5th Aug. we wouldn't know.

What is the date of issue of the NTO?

If it's 1 Aug. then the 28-day period ends 1 Sept. which is tomorrow;
If earlier then the 28 days are already up.

It's this critical.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2024, 01:47:21 pm by H C Andersen »

We have not seen the NTO. I would submit TODAY. Still shows £80.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
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The NTO was dated 5th August.

I will submit today.

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #34 on: »
Okay, posted now!

I hope they accept. Thank you so much!

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #35 on: »
Okay, posted now!
I hope they accept. Thank you so much!


Not online?

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #36 on: »


the NTO has finally arrived, well actually it arrived on the 5th of August.

The NTO was dated 5th August.


Unlikely.

Anyway, you've submitted reps so let's keep our fingers crossed. For accuracy, the fact that the penalty is still at £80 does not mean that reps could not be disregarded.

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
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Sorry, I was in a rush for work.

To clarify, I submitted the reps online through Islington's system.

Saved the confirmation screenshot.

The actual date printed on the NTO is 5th August.

I made a mistake when I said it arrived on the 5th of August.

Rejection
« Reply #38 on: »
So my formal representation to the NTO for this case was rejected, I have posted the rejection letter below.

I've contacted Islington for the bodycam footage, I know I should have done this months ago, which I did do, but I never followed up to their response for ID.

EDIT: The letter is dated 17th, it arrived only the Thursday that just passed (24th).


« Last Edit: October 27, 2024, 01:43:14 pm by ReflectoR »

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #39 on: »
Should I take this to tribunal?

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #40 on: »
Should you take it to the tribunal?

Well, the choice is

- pay £80
- go to tribunal, lose, still pay £80; win pay £0

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #41 on: »
I am going to take it to tribunal.

Will write a draft tonight

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #42 on: »
I am going to take it to tribunal.

Will write a draft tonight



Post your draft here for comment before submitting.

When registering, opt for personal or telephone hearing (never a decision on papers) and write something like I rely on my original reprsenations and any additional material which may follow on receipt of the Evidence Pack.

When you have a date for hearing advise us, and when you receive the Evidence Pack please post up here the List of Contents and the council's summary as to why they think your appeal should be rejected.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2024, 02:52:41 pm by John U.K. »

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #43 on: »
Hi, my draft is below. Thank you!

I would like to appeal this PCN on the same grounds as my original representations.

I explained to Islington Council that my husband parked to help me board a newborn baby into the vehicle. This is covered under the assisted boarding exemption in The Islington (Charged-For Parking Places) Order (Consolidation) 2023 under article 13(1)(a).

I made the following points:

There was no observation time, my husband had gone into the flats to help with the baby, and came out right away with him.

I was already in the car, before they had fully processed the ticket. The PCN was not printed, and not on the windshield. They continued the procedure as I loaded the car with the baby and his stuff.

I have a permit for the bays close to the pay and display bays, however, they were all in use, this was the only suitable area to park.

Islington have stated in their response that a driver found in this situation should remain with the vehicle and instruct the person or people to come to the vehicle. Else they should purchase a payment to park.

If that is the case, then it renders the boarding exemption moot. As if they could get to the vehicle, there’d be no need for assistance in the first place.

Kind regards,

Re: Islington, Code 11 Parked without payment of parking charge, Brewery Road
« Reply #44 on: »
OP, your account has changed and IMO needs to be clarified.

Pl clarify.

To start with and in your challenge you've posted and submitted 'I parked for a moment to go into the flats opposite to help bring a baby and all his stuff to the car. So I pulled up into the nearest available bay'.

But now this has become: 'I explained to Islington Council that my husband parked to help me board a newborn baby into the vehicle.'.

There was no previous mention that you were the passenger, everything focused on you being the driver and only adult occupant and therefore having to leave the car in order to board your child.

Pl clarify. Were you driving or not and was someone in the car while it was parked?