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Hi all,

First time posting so apologies if I get anything wrong.

I could not get imgpile to work so sharing a google drive link instead of the PCN.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XTv_q7Ans2qub7vLQrVzWjTA1eyDSMwG/view?usp=sharing

Google maps location https://maps.app.goo.gl/e6hfaXKT91i59gDD6

I have not asked for the CCTV video yet. I have read some comments saying I have to write to them to get it.
Is that via email or post? Could it be done via a call?

From the images shared the car in front of me does not have the turn right indicator on. I am not sure if this was the case when I followed in the junction. Only the CCTV would clear this up.

Look forward to hearing from much experienced campaigners if there is case to me made here.

Many thanks.

Hi,

They finally sent over the CCTV footage after 11 days.

I did confirm with customer service if it fine with stay in hold for 14 days or 14 working days. It is 14 days, so last day to appeal is the 04/02/26 for me.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QLoSSK_PNP3JMaiY4VUtq9xCxJwRyThn/view?usp=sharing

In the video you can see from the 1:42 mark that car in front of me does not have their right indicator on. I was the stopped at the yellow box for may be 4-5 seconds.

I hope my appeal on the basis of no indicator from the car in front will work. Is there a appeal template that can be used?

Thanks.

See case 2250412099

Case Details
Case reference   2250412099
Appellant   Ballycommon Services Ltd
Authority   Transport for London
VRM   LC21TUA
PCN Details
PCN   GX27501386
Contravention date   08 Jul 2025
Contravention time   07:54:34
Contravention location   GREAT WEST RD / WINDMILL RD
Penalty amount   GBP 160.00
Contravention   Entering and stopping in a box junction
Referral date   -
Decision Date   09 Dec 2025
Adjudicator   Anju Kaler
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons   
This appeal was listed for a Teams hearing. Mr Barry attended for the Appellant. He was the driver of the vehicle on the day. The Enforcement Authority relied on the evidence submitted in advance.

The contravention alleged is entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited. The prohibition is contained in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002, Schedule 19 Part 2 paragraph 7. This provides as follows.

7 (1) Except when placed in the circumstances described in paragraph 8, [box junctions] shall each convey the prohibition that no person shall cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles.

(2) The prohibition in sub-paragraph (1) does not apply to any person-

(a)who causes a vehicle to enter the box junction (other than a box junction at a roundabout) for the purpose of turning right; and

(b)stops it within the box junction for so long as it is prevented from completing the right turn by oncoming vehicles or other vehicles which are stationary whilst waiting to complete a right turn.

There are two box junction’s close to each other. The Appellant’s vehicle is seen to follow another car into the box and both vehicles intend to turn right. The vehicle in front goes past the green traffic light and has to stop on the far side of the first boxes there are oncoming vehicles preventing his right turn. The Appellant’s vehicle also has to stop behind him. The traffic lights change to red and so neither vehicle can drive on.

At the time the Appellant’s vehicle entered the box the lights were green and the vehicle in front was turning right. The closeness of the two boxes leads to the dilemma.

I find that the right turn exemption applies in these circumstances.