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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #30 on: »
Dear Sirs

This matter has had a chequered history, to say the least.  You issued a Penalty Charge Notice code 34j to the appellant when, at the time, you did not even possess a valid certificate from the VCA to satisfy the criterion of admissibility of evidence provided at para. 7(2) of Schedule 1 to the London Local Authorities Act 1996 (as amended).  Furthermore, the camera at the location does not have a certificate either.

I note that you issued a Charge Certificate but have not followed this up with an Order for Recovery. The appellant made formal representations against the Enforcement Notice but received no proper NOR. Indeed, the correspondence I have seen pertaining to this case beggars belief.

In light of this clear and very substantial departure from the statutory scheme, I request that you cancel the said PCN and Charge Certificate forthwith.  Please also register this with your complaints department.

I look forward to your reply.

Yours faithfully

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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #31 on: »

Could I suggest an alternative?


If all we're looking to do is to speed along the council's actions, then IMO any communication should be restricted to this point and not veer into whether the contravention occurred or not.

Dear Sir,
PCN *******; VRM ********; Issue date *******

I refer to the above, your letter dated 8 June 2023 in which you stated that my formal representations were (oddly) rejected on 30 March 2023, your Enforcement Notice dated 5 May, your CC dated 26 June 2023 and today's date of ******.

A period of over 7 months has now elapsed since the CC was issued.

As owner, I am entitled to expect the council to expedite matters in a timely fashion and not to have to order my life so that I would be on hand to submit an in-time Statutory Declaration to the Traffic Enforcement Centre should the authority belatedly decide to issue an Order for Recovery.

Within the next 2 weeks you should either
Issue an OfR, or
Cancel the PCN.

Yours
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #32 on: »
Thanks but it has gone hours ago.  Let them do the work and go through the case history. We do not want an OFR as this will prolong matters.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 08:49:56 pm by Hippocrates »
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #33 on: »
Thank you for your email. I have looked at the PCN and can confirm that it has been cancelled due to a processing error.

Curtis Gayle I Appeal & Monitoring Officer
Traffic, Transport & Parking, London Borough of Hounslow
Hounslow House, 7 Bath Road, Hounslow, TW3 3EB


See it.  Say it.  Sorted.  18.06 p.m.

The end of the beginning..............

https://hounslow.tarantoportal.com/

Link says:  No Matches. No records could be found for this criteria. OK

I thought "criteria" is plural!
« Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 08:51:38 pm by Hippocrates »
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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #34 on: »
Well done to all !!
(should I include Mr Gayle in that ?)
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #35 on: »
Wow, that was quick! Took less than 5 hours to shut that down.

Absolute genius Hippocrates, what a result.

And thanks a heap for your help.
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #36 on: »
I am going to continue the complaint in terms of all the other people ripped off at this location!  May be we will be looking at an objection to their accounts at the end of the year?  We will need just one local resident/elector.

Another euphemism for Schofeldt's Euhpemism Thread on pepipoo:  Processing error=giant **** up. 
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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #37 on: »
Quote from: efunc on February 02, 2024, 11:45:30 pm
Wow, that was quick! Took less than 5 hours to shut that down.

Absolute genius Hippocrates, what a result.

And thanks a heap for your help.

My absolute pleasure.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #38 on: »
Quote from: Incandescent on February 02, 2024, 10:23:12 pm
Well done to all !!
(should I include Mr Gayle in that ?)
He'll be hearing from me.
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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #39 on: »
Great that the PCN got cancelled, and kudos to Hippocrates.
 
But it seems as though the victory was down to procedural/"technicality" issues (which I'm not trying to trivialise - it's vital that authorities do things properly).  But now that they've got the cameras certified so they can be used, if next time they don't mess up the procedural aspects, some poor schmuck of a driver is going to have a much harder time.
 
And yet as the OP observed, there is absolutely no way to access those parking spaces without driving in the bus lane, which seems utterly bonkers to me.  Is this sort of thing common?  I've seen loads of bus lanes (got done-but-not-done for using one once), but never one between a road and parking spaces.   Are they mad?
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Re: Hounslow Council - 34 Being in a Bus Lane
« Reply #40 on: »
The reason is euphemistic bolleaux - and they know it. I am continuing this as the camera is not authorised. They should pay back people.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

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If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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