Author Topic: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station  (Read 10046 times)

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OK for me. They will reject it as normal and then you can register an appeal at London Tribunals.

Thanks for your help. I've submitted the appeal now

I've now received notice that my appeal was rejected. I'm having some difficulty attaching the letter though


I've now received notice that my appeal was rejected. I'm having some difficulty attaching the letter though

The use of attachments to post docs and images here is not recommended.

The easiest way to upload docs and images here (unless you have no mobile phone camera) is to use yr  phone to photo each page of each doc, redacting yr name & address where it occurs, and uploading the images to an external site like  https://ibb.co/ or imgur and copy and then post the BBCodes here. I use ibb with no probs. (Scroll down past the image to see the BBCode.)
See
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

I've now received notice that my appeal was rejected. I'm having some difficulty attaching the letter though

The use of attachments to post docs and images here is not recommended.

The easiest way to upload docs and images here (unless you have no mobile phone camera) is to use yr  phone to photo each page of each doc, redacting yr name & address where it occurs, and uploading the images to an external site like  https://ibb.co/ or imgur and copy and then post the BBCodes here. I use ibb with no probs. (Scroll down past the image to see the BBCode.)
See
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/


https://ibb.co/C52QK4Nj
https://ibb.co/xRvTM5W
https://ibb.co/cKvJWwbk
https://ibb.co/rRbM19vY
https://ibb.co/Rp3wXqMZ

« Last Edit: September 23, 2025, 08:31:48 am by John U.K. »


Thank you for helping to sort that out.

Is there any advice on the next steps?

Appeal IMO.

Yet again a complete failure to advise the owner of their rights to appeal:

3Where any representations are made under paragraph 1 above but the enforcing authority do not accept that a ground has been established, the notice served under sub-paragraph (7) of the said paragraph 1 (in this Schedule referred to as “the notice of rejection”) must—

(a)state that a charge certificate may be served under paragraph 5 below unless before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the notice of rejection—

(i)the penalty charge is paid; or

(ii)the person on whom the notice is served appeals to a traffic adjudicator against the penalty charge; and

(b)describe in general terms the form and manner in which such an appeal must be made,

and may contain such other information as the enforcing authority consider appropriate.


Misstated twice and owner's right to apply to adjudicator to register an appeal beyond the regulatory period has been omitted in its entirety.

And misstated their power to serve a Charge Certificate.

Thanks for this, where is that taken from?

I'm working on an appeal. Does that mean that their failure to properly state the appeal options could mean their case gets rejected?

Appeal IMO.

Yet again a complete failure to advise the owner of their rights to appeal:

3Where any representations are made under paragraph 1 above but the enforcing authority do not accept that a ground has been established, the notice served under sub-paragraph (7) of the said paragraph 1 (in this Schedule referred to as “the notice of rejection”) must—

(a)state that a charge certificate may be served under paragraph 5 below unless before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the notice of rejection—

(i)the penalty charge is paid; or

(ii)the person on whom the notice is served appeals to a traffic adjudicator against the penalty charge; and

(b)describe in general terms the form and manner in which such an appeal must be made,

and may contain such other information as the enforcing authority consider appropriate.


Misstated twice and owner's right to apply to adjudicator to register an appeal beyond the regulatory period has been omitted in its entirety.

And misstated their power to serve a Charge Certificate.

There are a few other pages including a Q&A page included with the letter. I uploaded these as well and the links are available here:

https://ibb.co/C52QK4Nj
https://ibb.co/xRvTM5W
https://ibb.co/cKvJWwbk
https://ibb.co/rRbM19vY
https://ibb.co/Rp3wXqMZ

I've submitted my appeal which has now been accepted by the London Tribunal. I have a hearing scheduled for 20th February 2026 to explain my case to the adjudicator. In the meantime, Havering has written to me saying the fine has been increased.

I've submitted my appeal which has now been accepted by the London Tribunal. I have a hearing scheduled for 20th February 2026 to explain my case to the adjudicator. In the meantime, Havering has written to me saying the fine has been increased.
Please post up what they have sent, as it could be an illegal request for money, as you've registered an appeal.

Thank you so much. This is what I was sent: https://ibb.co/60kt3gJT


What was the date for your London Tribunals appeal registration ? The Charge Certificate is dated 3rd October; when did you receive it ?

I registered my appeal on 3rd October. The notice of rejection gave me 28 days to register the appeal and it was dated 5/9/25 (though I didn't receive it till a couple of days after). So it's weird that they sent the charge certificate before the deadline had expired for lodging an appeal with the London tribunal isn't it?