Author Topic: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station  (Read 10048 times)

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I've sent off the statutory declaration now and just waiting to hear back. Would it be worth appealing the decision or would you advise I just pay the lower amount?

I got the attached and spoke to the court today. Apparently they've not received this from Havering despite Havering saying it's been lodged with the TEC. Has this happened before? Any advice on what to do? I'm concerned about the deadline ending and this being progressed

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I've finally received the order for recovery (after I've been chasing since November).
Can you post it here, please.

Apparently Havering are in a state of complete and utter chaos. I suggest you contact them to ask them why, if they have sent you an OfR, they have not registered the debt at TEC. Show them a copy of the TEC letter.

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I've finally received the order for recovery (after I've been chasing since November).
Can you post it here, please.

Apparently Havering are in a state of complete and utter chaos. I suggest you contact them to ask them why, if they have sent you an OfR, they have not registered the debt at TEC. Show them a copy of the TEC letter.

Sorry here is the order for recovery

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Within 21 days of the date of the OFR you must choose the appropriate box, book an appointment asap with a court or solicitor and sign it only then in front of a witness. Then e mail it to TRC.
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


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So I already got the PE3 signed and witnessed and sent to the TEC who then replied saying that the PCN wasn’t on their system as it’s not been registered on their system.

'We do not keep invalid applications'!

They're not holding your form waiting to pair it with an application from the council.

You have to resubmit. But when is the question because the ball's in the council's court although they'd have you believe it's not and that they've passed it over to TEC. You'll just have to check.

And on a point of accuracy, if your grounds are that you did not receive the PCN then the next stage is for the council to reissue.

Finally received the revoking order from the TEC (this was a few weeks back) but I'm yet to receive anything further from Havering


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I don't know if anyone's familiar with this location, but South Street had signs at the south end with the "flying motor bike" and "except for access" in an oblong box below. I've driven buses in that area but never had cause to use South street as my route was from the station and head east. I thought South Street was buses only, but GSV shows what I've just described. Does the PCN even have the correct offence code on it?
Bus driving since 1973. My advice, if you have a PSV licence, destroy it when you get to 65 or you'll be forever in demand.

I don't know if anyone's familiar with this location, but South Street had signs at the south end with the "flying motor bike" and "except for access" in an oblong box below. I've driven buses in that area but never had cause to use South street as my route was from the station and head east. I thought South Street was buses only, but GSV shows what I've just described. Does the PCN even have the correct offence code on it?

This is a very good question, I don't actually know the answer. I've just received the new PCN from Havering today. I've looked at what's written as well as the stills and video and it's not clear at all what the contravention was. I don't know whether to just try and find the £65 to pay it or whether there's a realistic appeal there. Shall I try and find a way to upload the video?

This is the video they provided but I'm not sure what the contravention was

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Can you show us the PCN please?

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I've looked at what's written as well as the stills and video and it's not clear at all what the contravention was.
The alleged contravention is on the PCN, that's why we need to see it.

Can you show us the PCN please?

Sorry I forgot I hadn't uploaded it. Here it is

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I've looked at what's written as well as the stills and video and it's not clear at all what the contravention was.
The alleged contravention is on the PCN, that's why we need to see it.

I've posted the PCN now. What's the best way to upload the video?

The video plays for me, I'm using VLC player from https://www.videolan.org for playback.

If just shows the OP driving past a green light. There is part of a no entry sign visible in the video, but it looks to me to be indicating no right turn, and the OP seems to be goings straight on not right (although the video cuts off at that point).

The closest I can get GSV to it is here (a similar but not identical angle to the video), so I think the council would have some explaining to do if this went to adjudication.
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