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Please post a google street view link to the exact spot, i would venture either wrong location or vague location could be in play

Please post a google street view link to the exact spot, i would venture either wrong location or vague location could be in play

Looks like here?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6075811,-0.3743394,3a,75y,140.5h,83.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR8g-ob8Rg-0X-nuwZDsZoQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

And that Op parked across two marked bays.
Though markings are not exactly jumping out at you.
Sign just up the road doesn't specify marked bays.
Once again I have to wonder what the traffic order says?

I've requested the traffic management order, looks like various avenues are worth exploring with this one.

Yep wrong location, not a sure fired winner with all adjudicators as location is not a statutory requirement but most adjudicators agree that as the PCN states the CEO has reason to believe you commit a contravention at a location you must at least be at that place

CP, did you receive the TRO? 14 day discount period lapsing soon so want to get something in ASAP ideally.

CP, did you receive the TRO? 14 day discount period lapsing soon so want to get something in ASAP ideally.

The TMO is The Harrow (Parking Places) Traffic Order 2020 and the relevant schedule is Schedule 68.

The relevant entry to the schedule seems to be item 1(b)(ii) on page 2, although I think the words "a point opposite" should not be there.

The schedule does define the number of parking spaces in each parking place (i.e. bay), and Article 8 says you must be parked within a space.

The one issue that remains is how these requirements are brought to the attention of motorists. The CEO didn't take any photos of the P&D machine, and GSV doesn't have the resolution to read anything on it, see https://goo.gl/maps/uaJTqxBhgeM3v3We7

Are you able to go back and get some photos?

The relevant bit in Article 8 says
"(c) that every part of the vehicle is within the limits of a parking bay, which is the
appropriate bay in relation to the ticket parking machine, in which has been
or should have been inserted any coin or coins for the purpose of payment of
the parking charge"

This is same wording as we've recently seen in another similar case from another authority.
To me it fails simply because there is no payment machine that the bay relates to. It is wording that harks back to parking meters for each bay, without parking meters, the clause makes little sense.

We also have the arguments on clarity of markings and that the requirement to park in marked bays is not conveyed on appropriate signage (though may be on any payment machine?)