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Finally Rejection Letter arrived with Appeal paper work.

Can you please advise the next step ?
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r


Need Assistant to complete Appeal form.

Thanks in advance

Morning All

Order for Recovery letter received from Council.

see attached, till date I have not received any rejection letter from council.
You need to follow the instructions here: https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-l-1805/

You already have the Order for Recovery so skip to the part which starts with "As soon as the debt has been registered...".

I CP8759

Can you please advise on TEC appeal stage ?

Many thanks

Dear Sirs

I enclose correspondence concerning the cancellation of the OFR and C.C. . Please refer yourselves to Schedule I para. 7(11) and refer the matter to the Tribunal, which is the correct statutory procedure.  This is your responsibility not mine.

In light of the protracted history of this matter, I am concerned.

Regards
« Last Edit: July 30, 2024, 11:25:14 am by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Hearing is on 23rd September. I am attempting to get my head around this mess and will have to make some adjustments re the representations.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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This should be straightforward.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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BIG THANK YOU TO PHILIP,

 ;D

The EA has provided photographic evidence of the signage which it contends faced the driver
as he approached the restriction. This shows what appears to be blue and white bus, cycle
and taxi only signage, although the photographs are of poor quality, and an advance warning
sign denoting a width restriction. The quality of this evidence is such that the dates of these
photographs cannot be readily determined. However, having expanded the photographs on
both my screen today, and on Mr Morgan's laptop, it appears that they date back to 2021.

8. Whilst it is not reasonable to expect an EA to provide contemporaneous photographs of the
signage upon which it relied, it is nonetheless incumbent upon that EA to provide photographs
which can be found to accurately show the signage at a location, within a reasonable time of
the date of the alleged contravention. This cannot be said of the photographs provided.
Changes may occur to signage - obstructions/damage and so forth - and the EA must
demonstrate that all relevant signage was prominent, unobscured and unambiguous. I find
that this has not been done in this case.

9. I note that, on the CCTV footage of the incident, the back of what the EA contends is the
restriction sign on the footway is visible. This sign appears to be a rectangular, "landscape"
sign. The corresponding sign in the 2021 library photographs appears to be a square, or
possibly "portrait" sign. Notwithstanding the possibility that this discrepancy may have been
caused by a camera distortion, I cannot be satisfied to the requisite standard that they in fact
show the same sign.

10. For these reasons, I allow this appeal.

Another good result.
Bus driving since 1973. My advice, if you have a PSV licence, destroy it when you get to 65 or you'll be forever in demand.

This was the amoeba argument:

Preamble

I withdraw the original representations criticising the PCN made by my client.

Submissions

1. There has been an unconscionable delay and unnecessary correspondence concerning the conduct of this appeal by the council.
2. Their photographic evidence is of little or no evidential value. And it leaves much to conjecture.

Therefore, notwithstanding the contents of my Preamble above, in light of my submissions I ask that the appeal be allowed please.

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I also contacted Mad Mick Redux the night before who gave me some cases in support as extra ammunition. But, I never usurp the prerogative of the Adjudicator to make their own mind up.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 12:08:55 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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