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Haringey PCN School Street
« on: February 04, 2025, 10:07:13 am »
I've been very remis and failed to act on this, I can still appeal but have to do it TODAY.

After I made the turn into Woodlands Park Road, it was too late to stop as I'd have been obstructing traffic on the main road.

Any chance of formulating an appeal?

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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2025, 11:23:09 am »
Any chance of a GSV link to the location?

Left or Right turn into Woodlands Park Road?

Any advance warning signs?

Not sure if Haringey are re-offering discount in rejecting reps made in discount period - others will know?

Any reason for missing signs?

There may be something wrong with PCN/website - others will know.

Is video on Council website -please post here.



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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2025, 12:20:19 pm »
Advance sign here: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Vfv3XGZ9rsQSj2x97
I think sun on the sign means the GSV view doesn't show the times so to confirm, we'd need up-to-date photo.

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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2025, 12:38:46 pm »
The PCN is invalid and I am happy to represent you.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/haringey-52(m)-pcn-nor-help-(downhills-park-rd-n17)/msg54603/#msg54603


The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge Certificate.”

The law states at Schedule 1 5:

1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice is the period of 28 days beginning—
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above, with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;
« Last Edit: February 04, 2025, 12:59:26 pm by Hippocrates »
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899

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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2025, 11:30:19 pm »
I've submitted the following appeal:

Quote from:

I am appealing this on the basis that there is a Procedural Impropriety.

The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:

1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question is increased by 50 per cent.

(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice is the period of 28 days beginning—
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above, with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;

This has been tested and heard by an adjudicator at London Tribunals.

I refer to case ref no: 224038612A, PCN No: ZN12830954

The adjudicator found that the PCN was invalid and directed Haringey Council to cancel the PCN. 

That being the case, I consider that a) the Penalty exceeded the amount to pay and that there has been a procedural impropriety. I therefore submit that this PCN should be cancelled on the same grounds and look forward to receiving your reply cancelling this PCN. 

I also attached a copy of the adjudicators decision.

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Re: Haringey PCN School Street
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2025, 09:47:22 am »
That'll do nicely.
How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

URGENT!

PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO EQUATE MOVING TRAFFIC LAW WITH BUS LANE LAW SO LONDON COUNCILS MUST ATTEND HEARINGS WHEN REQUIRED BY THE APPELLANT. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/701491

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/petition-to-align-the-llaa-2003-to-the-llaa-1996-(right-to-x-council-witnesses)/msg56899/#msg56899