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Dear experts

I am seeking guidance from experts to cancel the PCN ZN18284314 wrongly issued for VRN - HV14 CXT on 05-Sept-2025, detailed below.

•   I parked the car on Pretoria road, N17, around 5:30pm on 05-Sept-2025, the event day, and displayed blue badge on the steering wheel dashboard / car fascia panel (validity screen sticking out of steering wheel) which was clearly visible from both the driver seat and the passenger seat side.
•   I am not a resident of Haringey council borough
•   Upon return around 10:30pm, No PCN was found attached to the windscreen
•   Surprisingly, on 10-Oct-2025, I received the attached PCN in post.

Few key submission points to challenge the PCN:
•   The displayed blue badge on steering wheel was easily visible to any person from the side of the car which the CEO 585 failed to notice.  On Haringey council website, the proof of PCN shows only the front and rear view of car. No pictures of car fascia dashboard (visible from the side of the car) were attached to the PCN
•   The UK Government guidance states “You must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must display the badge in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle.” (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england/the-blue-badge-scheme-rights-and-responsibilities-in-england)
•   I didn’t find the PCN attached to the windscreen, likely passerby might have removed them from the vehicle
•   Attached is the copy of valid blue badge
•   The attached link doesn’t specify any parking restrictions in Haringey borough for the blue badge holders (https://haringey.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits/disabled/Blue-Badge/where-you-can-park)


Please could you suggest what options are available to me to challenge the PCN.
Honestly, I am at a loss when passerby removes the PCN from windscreen and when CEO fails to take picture from all angle including the side view.
Unfortunately, on the day, I didn’t take the picture of displayed blue badge to provide evidence as there was not PCN attached. Else, I would have taken pictures to safeguard myself.


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Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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Any reason why you didn't put the BB on the dash?

Take a pic of the BB where you had it from the outside.







Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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OP, 'The attached link doesn’t specify any parking restrictions in Haringey borough for the blue badge holders'.

It does, in reverse i.e.Blue badge holders can park in Haringey for an unlimited amount of time in a:

resident permit holder bay
resident permit holder shared-use bay (resident permit and pay by phone)
permit holder bay
permit holder shared-use bay (permit holder and pay by phone)


As soon as you post the NTO we'll be able to see the alleged contravention. Pl do not jump to conclusions when you don't have facts. Yes, in all probability the issue revolves around visibility of the BB, but one step at a time IMO.


I cannot find the NTO. Also pl confirm it's addressed to you by name.




Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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The contravention as per website:
16 Parked in a permit space or zone without a valid virtual permit or clearly displaying a valid physical permit where required

Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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OP, 'The attached link doesn’t specify any parking restrictions in Haringey borough for the blue badge holders'.

It does, in reverse i.e.Blue badge holders can park in Haringey for an unlimited amount of time in a:

resident permit holder bay
resident permit holder shared-use bay (resident permit and pay by phone)
permit holder bay
permit holder shared-use bay (permit holder and pay by phone)


As soon as you post the NTO we'll be able to see the alleged contravention. Pl do not jump to conclusions when you don't have facts. Yes, in all probability the issue revolves around visibility of the BB, but one step at a time IMO.


I cannot find the NTO. Also pl confirm it's addressed to you by name.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jjt-TdlO9DLf4q4JirTh25Xt1UG5F2Lr/view?usp=sharing -
copy of NTO, addressed to the registered owner of the vehicle.

Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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Thanks. And the 'registered keeper' is you, yes?

Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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Thanks. And the 'registered keeper' is you, yes?
Yes
i will post picture later today showing how BB was usually displayed on steering wheel.

Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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Thanks.

You have until 4 Nov. to make reps.

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Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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OK, so yes, the BB was displayed, and yes, it seems as if the CEO didn't look very much, but the question is why you displayed the BB in that place instead of on top of the dash like everybody else does. If you'd displayed in the "traditional" way, you'd have avoided all this hassle.


Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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OP, stop doing it.

The BB Guidance

How to display the badge

You must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen.


The Regulations
Manner in which a badge is to be displayed
12.  For the purposes of section 21(4A) of the 1970 Act a disabled person’s badge is displayed on a vehicle in the prescribed manner if–

(a)the badge is exhibited on the dashboard or facia of the vehicle, or

(b)where the vehicle is not fitted with a dashboard or facia, the badge is exhibited in a conspicuous position on the vehicle,

so that the front of the badge is clearly legible from the outside of the vehicle.


Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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The BB details need to be easily seen so I agree you must put it on the dash. If you are lucky Haringey will let you off but you have to ask what an adjudicator would say if they don't and you went to the tribunal.

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OK, so yes, the BB was displayed, and yes, it seems as if the CEO didn't look very much, but the question is why you displayed the BB in that place instead of on top of the dash like everybody else does. If you'd displayed in the "traditional" way, you'd have avoided all this hassle.

Indeed Sir, totally agree with you which I used to do always.  However, earlier this year in June, unfortunately, the BB fallen down on car floor due to the force when door was shut which went unnoticed. PCN was issued and representation was made immediately. Today I received NTO in post on which I started a new thread.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/brent-pcn-blue-badge-fallen-down-near-car-pedal/

Re: Haringey PCN - CEO failed to notice displayed blue badge
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OP, stop doing it.

The BB Guidance

How to display the badge

You must display the badge on the dashboard or facia panel, where it can be clearly read through the front windscreen.


The Regulations
Manner in which a badge is to be displayed
12.  For the purposes of section 21(4A) of the 1970 Act a disabled person’s badge is displayed on a vehicle in the prescribed manner if–

(a)the badge is exhibited on the dashboard or facia of the vehicle, or

(b)where the vehicle is not fitted with a dashboard or facia, the badge is exhibited in a conspicuous position on the vehicle,

so that the front of the badge is clearly legible from the outside of the vehicle.


Many thanks Sir.
Technically, which area of the car is termed as "car fascia panel"?  The google images suggested "steering wheel area" and "the audio system controller" area as "car fascia panel", henceforth I started displaying BB in those areas only after incident in June'25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascia_(car)
« Last Edit: October 15, 2025, 03:09:38 pm by Ams »