Author Topic: Haringey, London: fined for 'failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles'.  (Read 431 times)

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Did the crime, but wasn't aware of the prohibition, having travelled to London from Gloucester, along with my son, to spend Xmas with my daughters. When we left on Boxing Day, it took a few seconds for the satnav to figure out the car's orientation, and took us what seemed like a weird route, but that's just satnavs, we thought. Turns out we should have been paying more attention to signs, even if they were on flowerboxes, feet off the ground.

Is there any hope of the council cutting me a break? The date of notice is 31/12/25, and it's taken me a few days to get my own 'grit' together, and confirm that there's no confusion with parking permits (which I had).

Strict parking rules on Haringey, but will they 'let one go'?

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Oh, and you'll probably know that I've got 28 days from 'date of notice', which seems like plenty of time, or it would if I could talk to Haringey about it with anything quicker than post. It seems easier to pay the £80, but I'm sure that's what a lot of people are resigned to.

I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


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At least make them do some work for their money ! Submit reps based on not being London-based and ask for some small application of the Christmas Spirit.

Hippocrates may have a 'technical' appeal available that is a winner, but you'd have to take them to London Tribunals for a result.

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A few days ago. I received in the post a penalty charge notice, citing a 'failure to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle'.Initially, I thought it involved a parking permit my daughter took (or failed to take?) out for a visit by my son and myself on Xmas Day. It turns out that I had actually failed to notice a sign forbidding exit from my daughter's road, when we left on Boxing Day. This was largely because I have come to rely on satnav, especially in London, and assumed that it was taking a moment to determine my car's orientation, when in fact, it was probably directing me towards a legal route. As the sign was on a flowerbox, and quite close to the ground, it must not have grabbed my attention, in hindsight and having observed the sign on Google Maps (while I am a safe driver where ordinary road signage is concerned, I have had little experience with the stricter rules of inner London, and they are a challenge to my concentration, when combined with a long drive from Gloucester and cramped sleeping arrangements, evidently).

I am asking, therefore, that you overturn this charge, as it is unlikely I will ever make the same mistake again, now that I am aware of the situation, and alert to it, should I return, most likely, in the summer.

Sincerely, XXX XXXXX

It seems to me that 'aware' and 'alert' are, pretty much, the same thing, so I should amend the last sentence to,

'I am asking, therefore, that you overturn this charge, as it is unlikely I will ever make the same mistake again, now that I am alert to the situation, should I return, most likely, in the summer'.

I had a tweet from Haringey's @contactharingey account, suggesting that I could'check if your appeal has been received and the status of the PCN:', here:

https://haringey.gov.uk/parking/pcns-parking-traffic/challenge-make-representations-a-parking-pcn

I registered with their site, and logged in, but I couldn't see anyway to do either of those things, and told them. I've seen nothing since.

Last week, my son asked me if I'd paid the fine yet, and I told him, no, I was still waiting on the appeal. He said I'd have to pay the £160, then, and seems to think I'm being silly. My sister agrees, and she works with another council, but I'm going to keep waiting to hear about any new charges. It wouldn't be the first, or even second or third time, that I've been hassled for a penalty that turned out to be baseless.

Actually, it would be the third time. My maths suck.

That should have been 'second time'. It would be more accurate to say that my mind wanders, and thus honest mistakes are made.

So today (make that yesterday, now), I had a letter in the post, just when I had come to the conclusion that I'd been let off, they just weren't going ot inform me of it.

This letter informs me (I resume) that thry have noted my comments, but dismissed my arguments. On the plus side, paying £80 is still on the table, for two weeks, although the letter was dated 12 February, not 14th, so that's two days gone in a flash.

They're saying that the markings make the fine valid and payable, but that I can appeal to a Parking Adjudicator. Presuming I do that, what should I say? Have others succeeded in these circumstances, with London authorities?

Thanks in advance.