Author Topic: Haringey Council, Code 53 Failing to comply w/ a restriction....ped' zone. Parking Adjudicator?  (Read 2800 times)

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Hello all,

Once again I'm back here to ask you nice people for advice on this PCN I got back in June.

See google drive for images (apologies for the angles, my mother took them and refused to retake): ZN17546991

To summarise the PCN, Woodlands Park road has a school on it so it's one of these pedestrian zones. Had no idea having been the first time I'd driven in this area as a new resident. This trip was to drop off my motorbike for its MOT at a garage which is on this road. I saw the signs at the last moment and given traffic right behind me decided it too dangerous to abort my maneoveur entering the road. Afterward I assumed surely you should be able to use the junction to access a business on the road but it seems not.

I have until Wednesday before the 28 days deadline is up.

Would anyone recommend appealing to the Parking Adjudicator? Whats my best argument to make?

This is my first time even hearing of a Parking Adjudicator, not sure why I've not been offered the £80.00 discount rate after my first representation was rejected either.

I honestly find it crazy that drivers are expected to notice this signs with the numerous rows of information, read them and act accordingly all while trying not to cause an accident from a busy main road. Especially as a vulnerable road user on a motorbike. Is this a worthwhile line of argument?

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Please unredact your registration number, we need it to see the video, the sole evidence.
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Please unredact your registration number, we need it to see the video, the sole evidence.

Ah right apologies, VRN is NJ08 BCF. Or to save you the trouble its in my g drive folder now

Video shows you making a right turn into the restricted street. The restriction signs are plain enough, but your argument about seeing the signs at the last moment is diminished by the advance warning sign: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SwF7RigxvpXu5UHU8
I've pasted the 2023 view because the 2024 view shows the sign, but one cannot read what's on it due to sunlight. So I don't think you have a strong case to take to London Tribunals based on the contravention itself, but as they have not re-offered the discount, it's usually a no-brainer to go there, probably on a technical appeal basis. Such appeals are based on council mismanagement of the enforcement process. Hippocrates is good at these so hopefully will have a look on here.

Your point about needing access to the garage is not valid because their premises, whilst lying on Woodlands Park Road, are outside the length of it that has the restrictions. I assume this is the garage: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/m16RMwZzDBTeecdz7
Note where the restriction signs are.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2025, 02:57:40 pm by Incandescent »
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"pedestrian zone”

an area—
(a)
which has been laid out to improve amenity for pedestrians; and

(b)
to which the entry of vehicles is prohibited or restricted


https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/1


Where's (a)? This is not a Pedestrian Zone - which requires a specific TMO designating as such- because it's simply a road 'to which the entry of vehicles is prohibited or restricted'.

1 out of 2 ain't good enough IMO.

Contravention did not occur IMO.
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I should have also mentionsed HCA re technical appeals. Mea Culpa !

So as there is no discount go with this; you're already in for £160, so it's a no-brainer to go for it at LT.


Where's (a)? This is not a Pedestrian Zone - which requires a specific TMO designating as such- because it's simply a road 'to which the entry of vehicles is prohibited or restricted'.


Just done a bit of digging on the Haringey council site, there is a TMO in place for Woodlands Park Road it seems. See docs related

The Public notice details changing yellow lines from single to double as one of the general effects. I guess this would qualify the pedestrian zone definition

'(a) which has been laid out to improve amenity for pedestrians;'

If not let me know please as I will definitely use it as a defense.

Other than that if anyone could give me advise as to a good alternative argument I would be grateful. I am currently precariously employed as I am in the middle of a career change, I was on universal credit this time last year. Are these personal details for example worth mentioning, at least to argue for the reduced £80
rate?

Thanks in advance and thanks HCA for your reply.


?
Read provision 6.

Pedestrian and Cycle Zone

..shall cause any motor vehicle...!

What? A cycle is not a motor vehicle therefore this provision cannot prohibit cycles and the sign must be incorrect for this reason at least.


What? A cycle is not a motor vehicle therefore this provision cannot prohibit cycles and the sign must be incorrect for this reason at least.

You surely can't be suggesting to argue my engine-propelled pedaless registered/taxed/insured vehicle is classed as a cycle?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2025, 08:38:02 pm by mechanicalplaintiff »

We're talking about traffic orders and traffic signs.

The order prohibits only motor vehicles.

The sign purports to prohibit motor vehicles AND cycles.

It's wrong and unlawful.

And, IMO, it is NOT a PZ as defined. How could it be, the ORDER allows cycles free access!

Okay I take your point on the pedestrian zone, how can it allow cycles if its only for pedestrians.

On your other point, isnt a motorcycle classed as a motor vehicle? Is that really a legit distinction to make

If it is thank you very much appreciate the advice!

I'm not referring to your motorcycle, IMO the issue is whether the contravention occurred. IMO it did not. In order for the contravention to have occurred, as a minimum (and before we even think about you) the sign must convey a provision in a traffic order.

It doesn't.


The PCN alleges a contravention which is predicated upon the area being a PZ and being signed as such.

This allegation must be false irrespective of what you were driving.