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Haringey Council - 12(r) parking without permit
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PCN: ZN1957369A
Location: Woodstock Road, N4

I received a PCN on
I have received a NTO on 9 February 2025
drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1z4UE496eIdI2jdN3Oz5TX5dOk87ihwau?usp=sharing

I appealed that I was broken down, needed assistance before I could move from the location.
I also appealed that the evidence provided did not prove the alleged contravention as there were no images of the car and the sign in one photo clear

I did not receive a reply to my appeal and have received the NTO

Do I have grounds in tribunal to re-provide my garage invoice, displaying evidence of assistance / repair before I moved and the photo issue? 

I wanted to consult as previously several years ago I was challenged by Newham Council that the garage I used was not VAT registered so they could not accept the invoice provided by a small garage.

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Re: Haringey Council - 12(r) parking without permit
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As I understand it, the statutory defence is 'contravention did not occur' based upon a provision within the traffic order which designates and regulates the parking place that the requirement to pay/display a permit is excepted if the driver was parked due to circumstances beyond their control.

What constitutes sufficient proof for the council and potentially an adjudicator is not set out, so I suggest you give us your/the driver's full account and whatever evidence you have in support. And the PCN pl.

The NTO is dated 9 Feb, therefore IMO you have until 10 March* to submit formal reps.

* this is an edited post as stamfordman pointed out that I got my months mixed up!)
« Last Edit: February 25, 2026, 12:20:40 pm by tincombe »

Re: Haringey Council - 12(r) parking without permit
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10 March not 10 April.

Vehicle broken down is one of the most common excuses and councils and adjudicators are often sceptical so you need solid evidence.

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You must respond to the NtO, or it's game over. Only when reps against a NtO are rejected can you register an appeal at London Tribunals. I'm puzzled why you seem not to have included copies of your collateral evidence, (garage invoice etc), in with your informal reps.

Re: Haringey Council - 12(r) parking without permit
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Thank you for all your responses.

I do plan to respond to the NTO.

For background i did respond via their portal informal appeal, explained car issue and mechanic helped me get back to driving, alternator issue. provided invoice as part of informal appeal.

I have not heard back from them on my informal appeal, I will address this in the NTO and refer to informal appeal when responding to the NTO.

I also wanted to check if the whole PCN is even valid as the enforcement officer / ticket officer did not take an image of my vehicle and the signage that I was supposed to have seen and allegedly contravened 

Background:

Job for a customer on the same road, parked outside her property while she sorts out permit, she explains she will swap places (car places) and let me park in her special bay and leave her badge in my car.

My car no longer starting, sudden failure. I look at the signage, its close to 630pm time and the sign states Monday - Saturday 0830am-630pm restriction resident permit holders only

Match and Event Day - resident permit holders only - 830am - 830pm / Sunday and public holidays noon - 4pm

FYI - I am local arsenal fan, they were playing away to Villa, turns out the Women's team were playing at the Emirates. However, wasn't to know hence this pickle.

While the car didn't start, I called local mechanic to have a look as it wasn't a long journey for them, i provided an invoice for this mechanic as part of my appeal.

I also spoke to @Hippocrates and highlighted that more importantly was the PCN valid / appeal-able given the PCN evidence does not contain a photo of the car vehicle allegedly contravention and the signage in one photo to confirm that signage was visible.

Historically, a written appeal to adjudicator stage went my way when the adjudicator referenced lack of evidence of vehicle and signage of contravention, in one photo for evidence.

Re: Haringey Council - 12(r) parking without permit
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There is no legal requirement for photos on any PCN, believe it or not, even those based on CCTV evidence ! Yes, the law is an ass, as the Beadle in Dickens' "Oliver Twist" said.

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Wow - is it worthy point or looks like not worth raising in NTO response

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Wow - is it worthy point or looks like not worth raising in NTO response
No, just me commenting on the rather ancient nature of the law on traffic and parking offences.

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Historically, a written appeal to adjudicator stage went my way when the adjudicator referenced lack of evidence of vehicle and signage of contravention, in one photo for evidence.

Not in this case, IMO.

The grounds of contravention include the location as 'o/s 27'.

The sign in the photo is o/s 27/29.

GSV pinpoints the location perfectly even without the added info in the grounds.

As posted by others, photos aren't required and IMO given the standard of proof required(balance of probabilities) and the overwhelming evidence of GSV and the photos, which pinpoint the location of the sign as being immediately adjacent to your car, albeit slightly to the rear, I would not risk anything on persuading an adjudicator on this defence.

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@tincombe

can you expand on the 'o/s 27', where does it specify this? thanks

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@tincombe

can you expand on the 'o/s 27', where does it specify this? thanks

In the NtO in yr opening post.

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thank you all

to summarise I should form my appeal on the basis of

contravention did not occur' based upon a provision within the traffic order which designates and regulates the parking place that the requirement to pay/display a permit is excepted if the driver was parked due to circumstances beyond their control.

providing evidence

should I stay away from the lack of "complete" evidence as google street maps etc shows the signage?

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@Incandescent please can you review before I send today (final or penultimate day to appeal NTO)

I am writing to make a formal representation against the Notice to Owner issued for Penalty Charge Notice ZN1957369A, originally dated 6 December 2025.

I previously submitted an initial informal challenge on 19 December 2025 explaining the circumstances surrounding the alleged contravention. However, I did not receive any response to this challenge.

After reviewing the parking ticket portal history, I can see that my challenge was recorded as received on 17 January 2026 and rejected on 21 January 2026, with a further request for information also recorded on 21 January 2026. Unfortunately, I did not receive any notification of the rejection or the request for additional information.

I then received the Notice to Owner dated 9 February 2026.

I would like to reiterate the reasons for my appeal.

At the time the vehicle was parked in the bay, the car was not working due to a fault. The alternator had failed, which meant the battery was low or not working and the vehicle could not start and therefore could not be moved.

I previously provided supporting evidence in the form of an invoice from my local mechanic/garage confirming the mechanical issue. On 6 December 2025, the mechanic attended and assisted in starting the vehicle so it could be driven back to the garage for repair. The vehicle was immobilised due to a fault outside of my control, the vehicle remained in the bay solely because it could not be moved.

In addition, the photographic evidence provided with the PCN does not clearly show both the restricted time sign and my vehicle.

The contravention did not occur, as parking restrictions should be excepted where a vehicle is stopped or parked due to circumstances beyond the driver’s control.


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Put in a sentence or two stating that you have, once again, included copies of the relevant repair invoices. Unfortunately we cannot see their letter of rejection, but I suspect it included a request for more info on the fault and its repair. Essentially, they may have said they will reconsider when the requested documents are remitted.