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Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
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So I'm assuming based upon @cp8759 response on the thread - that is the basis for my dad's appeal?
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@zeezee I'm going to drop you a PM, this should be easy to sort out.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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Expensive day out for the council, outcome here.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
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A good win but unfortunately it costs the Council nothing. The money they must pay comes from PCN income. This is why Councils don't fear losing. Unless Council staff are personally held accountable nothing will change. When your own money is not at risk you have nothing to lose. Hence why we have the local and national Govt attititudes we do. No one is accountable.
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Quote from: Phantomcrusader on December 25, 2024, 02:18:41 am
A good win but unfortunately it costs the Council nothing. The money they must pay comes from PCN income. This is why Councils don't fear losing. Unless Council staff are personally held accountable nothing will change. When your own money is not at risk you have nothing to lose. Hence why we have the local and national Govt attititudes we do. No one is accountable.
As most people just cough-up on receiving a PCN, they can stand a few loses at adjudication. London councils make millions from parking and its enforcement, plus all the traffic PCNs where it's money for old rope.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
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Quote from: Phantomcrusader on December 25, 2024, 02:18:41 am
Unless Council staff are personally held accountable nothing will change.

This is why I name and shame them in my videos.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
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@cp8759  what was it about this particular case that made you pre-advise the council about costs in the formal reps?  Should it not be something that is stipulated by default in instances where there is a high probability of winning at tribunal?  Otherwise and in my personal experience, Redbridge (and others?) will continue to reject reps and then simply DNC when it doesn't have a valid case.
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Quote from: NTIAEP on September 07, 2025, 05:45:50 pm
@cp8759  what was it about this particular case that made you pre-advise the council about costs in the formal reps?  Should it not be something that is stipulated by default in instances where there is a high probability of winning at tribunal?
I only put it in when I think there's a realistic chance of actually getting costs. If it were just included in every representation by default, it would carry a lot less weight.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Parked in restriced hrs bus lane, Gants Hill, Redbridge
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I don't apply for costs at all now having been told: "This has to stop".
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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