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Higher level penalties increased to £160 on 7 April. The date of contravention here was 8th.

Haringey deferred the increase to 14 April.

I see no photo of the car with the sign. For future reference, the website is still too general:


The Contact Us page: no grounds.

I usually get the registered keeper to produce a letter of authorisation in a pdf and upload it.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 04:39:42 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

@H C Andersen Haringey was a bit late to the party and they increased charges a few days later as per this page, but very well spotted :)

Attached a picture of the letter without personal details.

Thank you!

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@Hippocrates thanks for your response, by uploading it you mean under the "contact us" tab?

The reason why I'm asking in detail is to make sure that the way I will do it will have the desired effect towards putting this back on hold.

p.s. the link you sent doesn't seem to point to a static page so not sure what the info was there.


Hello everyone,

I received a response from the council today on this case saying the below:

We now have the registered keeper's consent to look at your case.

I note that you advise that you had parked/stopped outside your house to offload a heavy box I had just collected from TK Maxx.

We have carefully considered what you say but you have not provided enough evidence for us to cancel your Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). Please see below for what you must do next.

The email you have sent in does not give details of the consignment.

You have these choices:
• We will reconsider your case if you send us a delivery note, a receipt/invoice for goods or a job sheet that shows a heavy box was in transit as stated. You have 14 days from the date of this letter being served to do this. Please send a photocopy (not the original) and quote your PCN number (see above).
• You can pay £130.00. You have 28 days from the date of this letter being served to do this. (It is now too late to pay at the discount rate.)
If you do nothing
If you do nothing, we will send you a formal Notice of Rejection letter saying that we have not cancelled your PCN.


I have already sent them proof of me being at the location before the time of the PCN, also an order placed with TK Maxx which was delivered to said store, not sure what else one could provide to prove that.

1. Does anyone know what kind of proof councils accept for unloading goods?
2. My question here from the beginning was whether it is legal to issue a parking ticket within the last 10 minutes of the parking restrictions ending? The CEO who usually works on my streets told me that this should be cancelled on that basis but I cannot find any reference to that from a legal standpoint to add to my appeal. If someone could help with this I would appreciate it.

Thanks again!
Afroditi

What was the shopping you picked up, how heavy and what size? Your best bet is probably to reconstruct the item and take a picture. Also what value.

There is no 10 mins grace for this. London Councils guidance has been 2 mins before and after a restriction ends/begins before issuing but it's not a rule.   

The value was £102 the box was large because it contained a double duvet, a duvet cover set, a round cushion, glass food container, and wardrobe hangers. The weight I cannot tell exactly, probably around 8-10kg? 

I also just obtained an email from TK Maxx confirming the date and time of collection which proves that I collected a box less than an hour from the time of the PCN.
They couldn't share a screenshot from their system but they could put the information in an email.

I mean that should be enough?

I still don't understand why the PCN is not cancelled straight away based on the fact that all images from the CEO are taken within 2 minutes and the last image is showing the car leaving. That alone should be enough, don't know what I'm missing here.


Original value of the order is £250 I should add - down to £102 with TK Maxx discounts.. if that means anything..

Thanks @stamfordman :)

You may as well try and get as much as you can to describe/prove the unloading of a package as the only other choice is probably to take it to the tribunal when they send the rejection (assuming they don't reoffer the discount). No point in paying £130 and not putting them through the tribunal.