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Hello Experts.


Original PCN: https://ibb.co/Yc506fm

Appealed as a PHV Driver thinking allowed to drop off customer.

Rejection letter dated 20/03/24: https://ibb.co/Jm2BKBk

Posted on Pepipoo for advice. Following advice I Submitted a FOI for the camera details. Acknowledgement received on 27/03/24 stating a response by 24/04/24.  This has not been received yet.

Unfortunately juggling too much and I missed deadline to either pay or appeal to tribunals.

I've now received the Charge certificate https://ibb.co/7GBG87Y

Is it game over and I should pay up or is there anything to do be done for late appeals? Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you
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@cp8759 Please could you have a quick look. I've forgotten the username of the other bus route expert from pepipoo too.
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A pickle. If you did not register an appeal, game over.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2024, 11:57:11 am by Hippocrates »
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Haringey Bus Lane Camera - Forgot to Appeal!
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Quote from: Hippocrates on April 28, 2024, 11:52:53 am
A pickle. If you did not register an appeal, game over.
Not necessarily, an out of time appeal can be attempted.

@roaduser I'm going to drop you a PM, it might not work but at the end of the day there's nothing to lose in giving it a go.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Haringey Bus Lane Camera - Forgot to Appeal!
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Unfortunately juggling too much and I missed deadline to either pay or appeal to tribunals.

Good luck if that is the reason.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Haringey Bus Lane Camera - Forgot to Appeal!
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Thank you. Cp8759 has sent an appeal so while we wait to hear if they allow it - I've received the FOI request response which I'm pasting for future reference.


Re: Freedom of Information Act Request ref: LBH/15217324
 
Thank you for your request for information received on 25th March 2024, in which you asked for the following:
 
1.      Please supply the make and model numbers of the bus lane camera operating on the High Road N22 outside No. 146.
 
2.      Please supply copies of the certificates to prove the make and models have been certified under the London Local Authorities Act 1996 (LLAA 96).
 
My response is as follows:
 
1.      We do not have a bus lane at High Road N22 outside No. 146.  We have a bus stop restriction in front of No. 146 High Road N22 which is enforced using a PTZ MIC IP Attended camera device.
 
2.      Certification of a CCTV camera device is not required under the Local Authorities Act 1996 (LLAA) for the enforcement of bus stop restriction.
 
If you are unhappy with how we have responded to your request you can ask us to conduct an Internal Review. If so, please contact the Feedback & Resolutions Team.  (Please note you should do so within two months of this response.)
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Ann Cunningham
Head of Service, Highways & Parking
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Sorry but this is of no assistance -neither the original request nor the response ipso facto.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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