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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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@cp8759 I wrongly ticked 'mitigating circumstances' for ZN15688510 and after advice from Hippocrates entered additional info amending to 'contravention did not occur' as the PCN is invalid.  I then added written confirmation from my partner who is registered keeper of the vehicle stating permission for me to contest the PCN, with ID .  Only ZN15688510 was done like this, the others were appealed in her name

Does this mean they've rejected the representation?
« Last Edit: March 19, 2025, 12:29:29 pm by Goretechre »
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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Quote from: Goretechre on March 19, 2025, 08:39:17 am
Does this mean they've rejected the representation?
I have no idea, you'll have to wait for the letter to come in the post. Alternatively, you could call them and see if they can email you a copy.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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@Hippocrates Letter received from them on the 22nd and asks to challenge again by post even though we sent additional info stating she gives permission for myself to make a representation with signature and driving licence.  Is this a tactic?  Im guessing i should send the letter signed for, could still go missing? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fzomzm_J4TRHifLqGLXkhPuuZbiTBEo0/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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You could go online and reiterate it again. I will PM you an officer's e mail address.
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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Quote from: Hippocrates on March 25, 2025, 11:33:33 am
You could go online and reiterate it again. I will PM you an officer's e mail address.
I would re-submit it via the council website as well as sending it by email, take a timed / dated screenshot of the confirmation page.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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I've sent the requested rep via Special Delivery post and email.  The other 6 PCN reps were sent on the 21st feb, still zero response.  At what point are they void?
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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They never become void, but if they don't issue a response within 3 months you can appeal on the ground that the delay is excessive.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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@Hippocrates @cp8759

Still no written response regarding my reps,  one of the PCN's ZN15688510 VN05EKZ has gone up to £130 and under key events it reads "On Hold :Representation Received (26/05/2025 )"
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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All you can do is either wait, or call the council and ask what's going on.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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I have just registered a couple and have conclusive evidence that they allowed one before the Tribunal stage which means that the issue of fairness comes into play. I have intervened in another's case too just a few minutes ago to get it sorted. Used exactly the same submissions in all.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-from-haringey-code-52(m)-cornwall-road-n15-(gorleston-rdfalmer-rd-east-west-/msg65874/#msg65874
« Last Edit: April 09, 2025, 08:26:22 pm by Hippocrates »
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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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I suggest:

1. Tribunal.

2. Formal complaint to the council in terms of The Nolan Principles.

Happy to assist with both.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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@Hippocrates appreciate that!  Whats the next step?  Seeing as theres 7 is this time consuming, and could be expensive if i lose - you dont think i should pay whilst still at £65? 
« Last Edit: April 23, 2025, 11:18:57 am by Goretechre »
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Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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The other 6 are disproportionate. PM me your details please and I will write to them to formally complain re their inconsistency and file the appeal.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
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Quote from: Goretechre on April 23, 2025, 11:15:42 am
@Hippocrates appreciate that!  Whats the next step?  Seeing as theres 7 is this time consuming, and could be expensive if i lose - you dont think i should pay whilst still at £65?
The council count on that, over 90% of PCNs are paid at the 50% discounted rate. If Hippocrates is willing to represent you I'd take him up on that.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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