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Haringey / 12(s) Resident or Shared use parking / Mayes Rd
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I was parking outside Cambridge House / 109 Mayes Rd, not realising the sign says you have to pay until 10pm.
I received this PCN for parking between 9:30pm to 9:38pm. Is there any base to appeal this ticket?

Kind regards

Avrumy

https://maps.app.goo.gl/VrFQTNoDkDhRHRxu9 (I was parked on the right side where the white Audi on the street view).

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not realising the sign says you have to pay until 10pm.
Did you read the sign at all ?

At the moment there seems nothing to appeal on; you parked within the charging hours and didn't pay. Did you just chance your arm that a CEO wouldn't come along ? If so, remember for the future that London councils patrol 24x7 as the money they make doing this is so good

However, post all sides of the PCN so it can be inspected for errors that may make it void.
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Try 28 days for starters.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

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Quote from: Hippocrates on December 19, 2023, 01:27:34 pm
Try 28 days for starters.
Ah yes. TMA 2004 mandates 28 days from date of service so two days knocked off here. A procedural impropriety that will get the PCN cancelled at London Tribunals.  Why are councils so thick and stupid ? All they've got to do is read the legislation ! 

Ah. I know ! They know that 99% of people just cough up the discounted amount.
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Hi
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, mind to explain what does it means?

Many thanks in advance

Quote from: Incandescent on December 19, 2023, 02:36:36 pm
Quote from: Hippocrates on December 19, 2023, 01:27:34 pm
Try 28 days for starters.
Ah yes. TMA 2004 mandates 28 days from date of service so two days knocked off here. A procedural impropriety that will get the PCN cancelled at London Tribunals.  Why are councils so thick and stupid ? All they've got to do is read the legislation ! 

Ah. I know ! They know that 99% of people just cough up the discounted amount.
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The 28 days are correctly stated
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I help you pro bono (for free). I now ask that a £40 donation is made to the North London Hospice before I take over your case. I have an 85% success rate across 2,000 PCNs but some PCNs can't be beaten and I will tell you if your case looks hopeless before asking you to donate.
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Quote from: mrmustard on December 26, 2023, 10:56:41 am
The 28 days are correctly stated
I had another look before Christmas Dinner, (!), and agree.  The PCN was served to the car, (Regulation 9). The 2022 regs only define the 28 days on an enforcement Notice.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/part/2/chapter/1
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Point taken.  I see only 1 page of the PCN.
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I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Unfortunately I do not have the PCN anymore, only the scan of the front page what is attached.

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@Avrumy why did you park there?

And aside from not seeing / looking at the sign, do you have any meaningful mitigation you can put forward?
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