Author Topic: Hammersmith&F, code 12s, parked in a residents' parking place, forgot to activate RingGo  (Read 53 times)

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Long shot but is this worth appealing:

I parked here at 7pm and forgot to activate my visitor permit. I'm aware therefore I have made a mistake, but I genuinely forgot. I have activated over 100 sessions (and paid where appropriate) over the past few months. Would the council consider cancelling this as a goodwill gesture?

If not, can I appeal based on the misalignment of the amount on the ticket (the misprinting)?

Can I ask for the 'Less serious contravention' amount if they deny me
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/parking/parking-tickets-and-enforcement

I have blocked out the PCN number (it isn't available to view yet due to it not being 24 hours)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yV3qChViwnLHqRh26

https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/6QQYPJ8_xl.jpeg

SECONDLY, I got A SECOND PCN because I took the first one off, didn't activate the session and a different officer put it on - what are the chances of getting this cancelled (does continuous contravention apply?)


thanks in advance for any help

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SECONDLY, I got A SECOND PCN because I took the first one off, didn't activate the session and a different officer put it on - what are the chances of getting this cancelled (does continuous contravention apply?)

So you didn't activate the permit, left the car, then returned to the car and saw the PCN, took it off, and then walked off and got another when you again returned to the car. Not good is it ! In matters like this, I say be honest about it, but the 2nd PCN is a continuous contravention provided it was served within the time normally allowed when one activates a permit in the way you describe. For the first PCN, you are indeed trying to rely on their goodwill, and it may work, so try it. Councils are very greedy for money these days and find PCNs a very useful revenue source, (the streets of London are literally paved with gold for them). H & F make about £20 million every year out of parking and traffic PCNs.

'continuous contravention provided it was served within the time normally allowed when one activates a permit in the way you describe'

what do you mean? The period is 9am - 6.30pm, permit or pay and display. 6.30pm - 8pm, permit only. 8pm - 10pm same as first period.

I parked at 7pm ish, went away, saw the PCN at 8pm ish and took it off and left again (car remained unmoved). I thought I don't need to activate the session because I already got the PCN. At 9ish, I thought, let me do the session incase. Came back to car again and saw the SECOND PCN observed at 9.04.

Will the second one likely be cancelled or will they say it was observed in the 8-10pm period?

is there anything about the PCN being misprinted?

All I can suggest you do is submit representations based on what happened, and see what they reply with. It is very unlikely indeed that they will cancel either of the PCNs, from receipt of an informal challenge.

If you wait for the Notices to Owner, and submit the reps again, they will be reconsidered probably in more detail, but against you is council greed for money. Certainly you only have good will for the first PCN.  As for the mis-printing, you should mention it in your reps. I have to say I don't have much experience of mis-printed PCNs, yours is almost readable, but we've seen some much worse. Reps for the second PCN should certainly be for it being a continuous contravention.

Probably best to wait a bit to see if anybody else contributes anything I haven't covered incl the misprinted PCN, but don't miss PCN deadlines. They will serve Notices to Owner to the name an address on the V5C Registration Certificate if nothing is done about the PCNs. Is the owner you ?

Your images are not showing for me :(

What is the contravention on the second PCN.

Technically it is only a shared use bay when it is and not when it's a permit only time.

But they should cancel the second if you say you removed the first to examine it and were about to take out a session.