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CHARGE CERTIFICATE- LBWF, Code: 31 - Stopping in Yellow Box Junction, Kings Road E4/Pretoria Road E4
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Hello,

In a bit of a stunned state, received a letter titled "Charge Certificate" bypassing any other letters like an NTO or original letter informing about the contravention - which did not arrive pre-xmas. Fast forward to 05/01/2024 - and a birthday present arrived in the post in the form of a charge certificate! Happy Birthday to me… not the kind of present I was hoping for…

No representations were made due to not being aware of the contravention (but I suspect LBWF – will not want to know?!) and now this has increased by 50% - which is disgusting! After receiving this, I have gone to the LBWF Website to view the contravention footage and images - shown below.

PCN & Images
PCN Images and Video

Video
CCTV Video

GSV Link
Kings Road E4/Pretoria Road E4


Recollection of Event
I vaguely remember going to collect a parcel from the post office in Station Road E4 where you need to turn right at the lights- and thought I had cleared the junction but evidently not.
£195 is just outrageous.

Next Steps

What are my options?

Would appreciate some help as I apparently I have to respond within 14 days from 04/01/2024 or date of receipt 05/01/2024…
Thank You!
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE- LBWF, Code: 31 - Stopping in Yellow Box Junction, Kings Road E4/Pretoria Road E4
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IF you did not receive the PCN, wait for the Order for Recovery.
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE- LBWF, Code: 31 - Stopping in Yellow Box Junction, Kings Road E4/Pretoria Road E4
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Quote from: Hippocrates on January 08, 2024, 02:30:39 pm
IF you did not receive the PCN, wait for the Order for Recovery.

What does this mean and what options does this provide? Is this a debt/enforecement?
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE- LBWF, Code: 31 - Stopping in Yellow Box Junction, Kings Road E4/Pretoria Road E4
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You are beyond the point when you can submit representations. The only point when you can revert the process is when the council register the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC), and send you an Order for Recovery. You can then submit a Statutory Declaration that you did not receive the PCN. The process is then reverted to the PCN stage. It is a mere box-ticking exercise.

However, this doesn't mean you can now sit back and wait the OfR, because having missed getting the PCN, you might not get the OfR.  So, once the period to pay the CC is expired, you should ring TEC every week asking if the debt has been registered. Once it has, you can download the form from the TEC website, fill it in, and send it off.  I understand TEC will accept this electronically.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-enforcement-centre-forms

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