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I have been notified by the lease company of a PCN issued about entering the bus lane in Minster Street, date of Notice 08/12/2025. Lease company replied to Council with my details (which are correct).

I haven't received a "new" PCN in the post yet, but I have the details of the original one, which I checked on the council's website and it's still pending. Now the original "bribe" deadline for not challenging the PCN (only paying half of the £70 amount) has expired. But a Charge Certificate was not issued yet (or at least I haven't received yet) despite having been more than 28 days from the original letter (to the lease company).

Unsure of what to do. Chances are the new PCN got lost in the post; I don't think the council is going to cancel it.

- Should I contact the council and ask them to pay the reduced rate?
- What if I want to appeal the PCN?

PCN **as received by lease company**

https://imgpile.com/p/UH4GNku#fsETwFR
https://imgpile.com/p/UH4GNku#s1YtI0l

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Re: Reading - Minster Street Bus Lane - leased car, PCN not received yet
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Lease companies can sometimes be very badly informed of the law regarding postal PCNs.

I suggest you first check with them to make sure they haven't paid it at the discounted rate, because if they have it is game over, because then, the council will not send out a PCN to you. Secondly, if they have merely reported your name and address, ask them when they received advice from the council that their PCN had been cancelled. The council have 28 days to serve the second PCN from date of cancellation of the first one.

Re: Reading - Minster Street Bus Lane - leased car, PCN not received yet
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Thank you @Incandescent for the reply. So you're basically suggesting that:

- The lease company might have paid it already - pretty sure it didn't happen, because if I visit the payment link it still shows it pending.
- The council may not yet have cancelled the old PCN, and I should check with the lease company whether they've been advised or not from the council - I'll try to check with them.

In cases like this, if you know, does the old PCN get cancelled and a new one issued with a different number? The original one is definitely still pending. Perhaps it is a sign that the new one has not been issued yet? Although the lease company replied to the council on 12/12/2025 so it has been some time now.

Re: Reading - Minster Street Bus Lane - leased car, PCN not received yet
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The first PCN must be cancelled, and only then can the council serve a new PCN to the name and address supplied to them by the lease company. The council have 28 days to serve the second PCN starting with the date of cancellation of the first PCN. Note that there will be an interval between the lease company submitting representations, and the council getting round to cancelling the first PCN. Councils are not fast moving bodies !

After all I've received the new PCN in the post. It looks exactly like the one I attached (including the PCN number), only the address and notice date (21/01/2026) are changed.

Minster Street in Reading is a known spot where a lot of PCNs are issued. A bus-only road, it begins at the end of another road (King Street) where there is no option to turn anywhere else bar making a 3-point turn in a normally busy area. The only sign before the bus lane, signaling that restrictions are in place, is a 6-line descriptive sign just ahead of the "last good turn" and horizontal markings indicating "all traffic" to turn left (into Duke Street) and "bus gate ahead" entering the last stretch of King Street.

Location of the bus gate:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/TEwVgc2SUFq5toSN9

Here's a YouTube video, taken from a bus (not by me) showing the route - helps to understand if you haven't been there:



(the road where I was supposed to turn into to avoid the bus lane (Duke Street) wasn't closed at the time I went through the bus lane).

The "descriptive sign" is at 11:34. The driver here stops right ahead of the bus gate at 11:55 and enters it at 12:20. Cameras are visible at 12:25.

Some people call it a "trap" and effectively I felt trapped. I saw the sign with the 6 lines of text and thought "I need to be careful, there are traffic restrictions ahead" but I did not realize that I should have turned left there and then. I saw the road markings, but did not interpret them properly. Finally, I saw the signs before entering Minster Street, knew exactly that I should not enter it, yet I saw no other option (as I don't normally do 3-point turns in the middle of traffic) and thought that it was too late, so I entered the road and saw the cameras after.

I am inclined to challenge this. I know common points brought forward are:
- Unclear signage
- Road layout making it nearly impossible to avoid the bus gate once past the last intersection where it is possible to turn left
- A few issues with the wording of the PCN

I should also note that the infraction happened at 10:48, and the bus gate ends being active at 11:00 - not sure if this qualifies as "de minimis" violation.

I know the council will very likely reject the appeal. I know some people have had success with an adjudicator, but others have not, by browsing through peepipoo archives.

Is there an "update", or recent advice, on how to act when challenging PCNs at this specific location? And, thanks!
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