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Glasgow City Council PCN - Parking adjacent to a dropped Kerb at a know crossing point - Whitehill St, Glassow

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Glasgow City Council PCN - Parking adjacent to a dropped Kerb at a know crossing point - Whitehill St, Dennistoun, Glasgow.

I know I have left this way too late to get advice as I only have 2 more days before the reduced fine doubles, but, any advice would be greatly received.

“Parking adjacent to a dropped Kerb at a know crossing point”.

Is my van illegally parked? Is it because the front of the bumper might be a few centimetres over the yellow end?
Are they classing the ‘dropped kerb’ the second one adjacent to the telephone box? I appealed as I stated that the dropped kerb was at least 6ft away from the front of the van but they upheld both tickets.

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This image shows the 'double' drop curb: https://freeimage.host/i/drop-kerb2.CkhdQPS

My van: https://freeimage.host/i/getimageaspx-5.Ckhdquf
Looks like you are parked right over the dropped kerb to me.

I see there are two PCN's, did you leave the van there overnight, or return and park in the same location the next day?
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I don't think it can be enforced as a crossing as there is another dropped footway better placed at by the corner and the one you were on has a kiosk.

If the van did'nt move the second one should be cancelled as a continuous contravention.

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The van was left for two days as I thought that as the double yellow line defined the start of the parking restrictions and the 'dropped kerb' I was parked parallel to, runs to the other end of the road (as in they will have raised the kerb to make the one on the actual corner more prominent - you can clearly see where they have reworked the pavement to raise the kerb for the corner crossing). There is a telephone kiosk there so how can they claim it's a know crossing point?

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The historic streetview images show the kerb /layout better (2018 is free of cars and the structure/lineing looks unchanged)

It does looks like the kerbline is low for the whole length of the street and has been raised at the start of the yellow lining as part of the pavement buildout from the original kerbline, to then allow it to then be dropped to create the obvious crossing point on the corner.
I don't see how they can claim it to be a crossing point when it is so obstructed by the telephone box, lamp post and no entry sign post - and had it been intended to be a crossing point then the yellow lines should have been extended to stop parking at it.

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The historic streetview images show the kerb /layout better (2018 is free of cars and the structure/lineing looks unchanged)

It does looks like the kerbline is low for the whole length of the street and has been raised at the start of the yellow lining as part of the pavement buildout from the original kerbline, to then allow it to then be dropped to create the obvious crossing point on the corner.
I don't see how they can claim it to be a crossing point when it is so obstructed by the telephone box, lamp post and no entry sign post - and had it been intended to be a crossing point then the yellow lines should have been extended to stop parking at it.

Normally a dropped kerb provides some sort of access.
That's the most bizarre dropped curb I have seen with a telephone box blocking access.

These was my exact thoughts too. However, will the fact that the front of the van is slightly over the end of the double yellow lines mean that I'm still breaching parking convention 101?
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If the van did'nt move the second one should be cancelled as a continuous contravention.

Massive thanks for this very useful information!! Looks like I should now be able to get the 2nd ticket cancelled:

"I am writing to formally challenge Penalty Charge Notice number [Insert 2nd PCN Number] issued on 7th July at 09:25. This ticket was issued less than 22 hours after a previous ticket, PCN number [Insert 1st PCN Number], which was issued to the same vehicle at 11:59 on 6th July. *The vehicle was not driven or moved at any point between the issuance of these two notices. As the vehicle remained stationary in the exact same location, this represents a single, unbroken 'continuous contravention'. It is a well-established principle of parking law that a motorist cannot be penalized twice for the same ongoing restriction breach. I request that this second PCN be cancelled immediately."
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So an Enforcement Notice was issued in respect the the PCN dated 7/7.

May we see this, your* reps, their rejection pl.

We don't know how much time you have to play with.

*- was the Enforcement Notice addressed to you as the registered keeper? We see so many examples where commercial vans are owned by companies(employers) or leasing companies and the OP is simply the driver, not the addressee on the EN or registered keeper.

This must be being enforced under regulations made by Scottish ministers, but the PCN doesn't mention these. I wonder whether the detail in these might help you.

The Act specifies:
58Imposition of penalty charges
(1)Where a person parks a motor vehicle in contravention of the pavement parking prohibition, the double parking prohibition or the dropped footway parking prohibition, a penalty charge is payable in respect of the contravention.

I would suggest that that you don't use the term 'continuous contravention' but stress that the Act refers to the actual act of parking a vehicle: 'Where a person parks a vehicle..'. The act of parking took place once only, namely just before a prior PCN was issued on 6 July(the day before). This was served at 11.59 and was paid by me at the discount, mea culpa.

The PCN in question in this appeal was served at 9.25 on 7 July, less than 24 hours later during which period the vehicle remained stationary.

I accept that there isn't a specific regulation which prohibits subsequent penalties being demanded in respect of continuous contraventions, therefore I respectfully submit that this void should be filled with concepts of fairness.

I would suggest that the Tribunal would consider PCNs issued every hour in respect of a single act of parking to be unenforceable by virtue of being unfair. So, when does unfair and unenforceable become fair and enforceable?

I submit that in this case there was a single act of parking and only a single penalty may be demanded and not, as here, another less than 24 hours later. 

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