Author Topic: Ealing Council - Greenford Road Code 32JD Fail proceed in direction shown by arrow blue sign  (Read 53 times)

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Surely I saw and responded to this thread this morning or am I dreaming ?

I saw it and typed in a reply then got waylaid by the wife so didn't send it ! So here is my reply -

The location looks familiar on Google Street View, so I think we've seen this one before fairly recently, but I don't know if the case got to London Tribunals. I think the case centred on the traffic light array and its unsuitability/non -regs-compliance, for the directions/instructions  to be conveyed to the motorist.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jjeU5pekaKdeswWu7
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@abdulsami1 a bit of context would have been nice!

The video doesn't appear on https://ealing.tarantoportal.com/ so I've requested it from https://viewmypcn.co.uk/default.aspx

Draft representation:

Dear London Borough of Ealing,

I challenge liability on the ground that the alleged contravention did not occur. In order to create an enforceable restriction, the council is required to provide segregated lanes, otherwise there is no impediment to a motorist lawfully switching lanes at any time (as this is not prohibited).

An example of a correct layout is found for instance on Filton Road in Bristol, I refer you to the images at LINK1 LINK2 and LINK3 which illustrate the point.

At the location captured by your camera, there are no restrictions or prohibitions on vehicles changing lane at any stage, nor can the turn right arrow embedded into the traffic light array have the effect you think it does: if it did, then all traffic including traffic in the left-hand lane would be required to turn right.

In the circumstances, the alleged contravention did not occur.

Yours faithfully,

I will PM you some links to put in the representation, they will redirect to https://imgur.com/a/4zM5p0o https://imgur.com/a/sInUhfA and https://imgur.com/a/XYsLaTA but if you give them the links I'll PM you, we can use the click count to confirm whether they've looked at them or not (obviously do not click on the links I PM you as we want the click count to remain at zero). If they don't click on them, we can then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence. If they say in the rejection that they've considered all the evidence, we've got them for lying as well.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister.

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abdulsami1

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I've submitted representations. Let's see what happens. Appreciate the help!