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Wife was picking up her parents who live local and took a wrong turn. Says she never even saw the signs and didn't realise it was restricted due to cars parked either side on the road.

She entered from Fairfield drive so the signage wasn't quite visible from the right turn as left sign obscured by tree and right sign very close to turn itself, and at the time of the turn, the car entering Fairfield drive on the photo was coming from there so blocked her vision of the sign partially too.

Car registered to me so I received the PCN.

Any ideas on whether this is something that can be challenged?

This doesn't have a video on the PCN page.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/x2QmRSQ5McgwX78t8?g_st=ac

Thanks in advance. Have to pay by 17/6/25 for reduced fee

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Case Details
Case reference   224057609A
Appellant   Guaranteed Cleaning Ltd
Authority   London Borough of Ealing
VRM   EJ67 EEN
PCN Details
PCN   AO03081874
Contravention date   04 Nov 2024
Contravention time   08:53:00
Contravention location   Perimeade Road
Penalty amount   GBP 130.00
Contravention   Fail comply restriction vehicles entering ped zone
Referral date   -
Decision Date   10 Feb 2025
Adjudicator   Martin Hoare
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons   
Mr Murray Smith represented Guaranteed Cleaning Limited. No one represented the Authority.

He submitted that The Traffic Management Order does not establish a pedestrian zone.

He submitted that ‘a pedestrian zone sign can only be placed if there is an Act, order, regulation, bylaw, resolution or notice that creates a pedestrian zone…… The traffic management order at evidence item B does not create a pedestrian zone, it merely creates a motor vehicle prohibition’.

The Authority’s The Ealing (Perivale School Streets) (No.1) Order Schedule 1 refers to prescribed streets which include ‘Perimeade Road, between the Western kerb-line of Fairfield Drive and its junction with Federal Road’.

However the Order does not create a pedestrian zone.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/8/part/2/made

provides

'PART 5The Schedule 8 General Directions

1. The signs provided for-

(a)in the sign table in Part 2; and

(b)at items 1, 2, 6 and 7 of the sign table in Part 4,

must only be placed to indicate the effect of an Act, order, regulation, bylaw, resolution or notice which restricts or prohibits the use of the road by traffic'.

Josephine Dayan v London Borough of Barnet (2220227611, 18 May 2022), held that in order to use a zone boundary sign it is of crucial importance that the Traffic Management Order (TMO) must create a zone, or else there is no lawful authority to install zone boundary signs.

Accordingly the signage evident in the Authority images is not authorised by the applicable law and the penalty charge notice cannot be enforced.

The appeal is allowed.

Sorry still waiting for some help regarding tm response

Thank you I have sent him a forum message

So I am waiting for an outcome of me appealing/challenging the PCN but recrived a text message today saying:

Legal Pre-Action Notice: PCN Fine Remains Unpaid 
This fine is a valid recorded offence in the system and remains unpaid to date. If not resolved by 10 July 2025, legal proceedings may be initiated, potentially resulting in additional costs.
Payment link:https://gov.comsitbntbz.live/PCN?MkV=Vo4Xq2

My impression was that payment is on hold while the challenge is pending?

When I go to challenge on their website it's still showing the discounted price currently.

Should I ring the council or can I safely ignore this?

So following my appeal to them 17th June it's been more than 30 days and I've not heard anything back. The ticket is still showing as active and discounted if I go to try an pay it on their website.

I emailed them at one stage about the spam message before hearing about it here and had no response about that either.

Is there a limit until when they need to respond to me before it can be considered cancelled

Thank you, that's good to know. When I submitted the form on the PCN challenge page of their website, it said 30 days so I guess I might need to wait longer.