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Hi again,

I have received today a Penalty Ticket because I have left the car in double yellow lines while I had to drop off my child at home.

That's where I have left the car parked. I will attach a photo of the ticket as well.



I would like to know if I can win this appeal?

Thanks a lot.

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I have received today a Penalty Ticket because I have left the car in double yellow lines while I had to drop off my child at home.

As well as both sides of the unredacted PCN, please post a GSV link to the location.

Also pleaser provide some context to the drop off - e.g. - when did you park? how long were you away from the car? How old is the child? How far is home from where you parked?

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Thanks John. 18months old child, around 30 minutes.

I have read the ticket and says that I have received the fine because I have parked on outside hours. Which really confused me as there are no signs at all.

Please find below the photo of the fine.





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What's your understanding of what double yellow lines mean?

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What's your understanding of what double yellow lines mean?

I know I cannot wait or park at any time. However the circumstances were different.

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I have tried using ChatGPT to create an appeal letter:

Don't know if is any good.

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To: [Parking Department / Council Name]
Re: PCN Number [Your PCN Number]
Vehicle Reg: [Your Vehicle Reg]
Date of Issue: [Date of PCN]
Contravention Code: 01 – Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours
Subject: Challenge to PCN – Safety-Based Mitigation for Infant Drop-Off
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to respectfully challenge the above Penalty Charge Notice issued on [date] for my vehicle [vehicle reg] at [location].
I understand that my vehicle was parked on double yellow lines during restricted hours. However, I hope you will consider the exceptional mitigating circumstances in this case.
I was travelling alone with my 18-month-old child, and needed to safely take them into our home. The only available parking spot nearby was across a very busy road, and given the age and vulnerability of my child, I felt it was not safe or practical to attempt to cross the road with them from a further location.
In the interest of safety and care, I made the decision to briefly leave the vehicle parked while I ensured the child was safely inside the home. Unfortunately, this took longer than anticipated, and I sincerely apologise for the time the vehicle was left.

I fully appreciate the importance of parking rules, especially around restricted zones. However, I would ask the council to consider the exceptional nature of this situation, the vulnerability of the child, and the fact that my actions were taken out of concern for their safety — not convenience or disregard for the rules.
This was a one-off event, and I would be grateful if the council could exercise discretion in this instance.
Thank you for your time and understanding.

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Thanks John. 18months old child, around 30 minutes.
You need to explain how far it was from home, why it took so long, and who was caring for the child whilst you returned to move the car.
I have read the ticket and says that I have received the fine because I have parked on outside hours. Which really confused me as there are no signs at all.
DYLs need no signs.


I have tried using ChatGPT to create an appeal letter:

Don't know if is any good.




Not really... you are not pleading for mercy, but claiming a statutory exemption to the ban on parking on DYLs, that of assisted boarding/alighting. But it is up to you to show why the exemption applies.

Sorry about the apparently intrusive questions, but should it reach adjudication, they are the sort of questions an adjudicator might ask ask as he seeks to understand such a lengthy wait.

Cases involving such a wait (and longer) have won at tribunal in the past, but the length of stop must be shown to be necessary.
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Also pleaser provide some context to the drop off - e.g. - when did you park? how long were you away from the car? How old is the child? How far is home from where you parked?


I was away for 30 minutes.
The child is 18months.
At the time I was the only one who was carrying the child.
I have attached new photo with where I have parked where was home address:




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Is half an hour can be too long for appeal in this case ?

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Just small update on this: I have read the PCN again , and they made a mistake when they mentioned the colour of the vehicle. They did put Black when on paper is Blue.  Can this be used for appeal ? Thanks

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Just small update on this: I have read the PCN again , and they made a mistake when they mentioned the colour of the vehicle. They did put Black when on paper is Blue.  Can this be used for appeal ? Thanks
Sorry, no. The PCN must contain a set of statutory information; colour of vehicle is not mandatory.

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Barring procedural errors of mega proportions by the authority, IMO get out with minimum cost.

As you didn't leave the baby at home alone, somebody else was there. Your obligation was to move out of contravention as soon as possible. IMO, 30 minutes means you did not.