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Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
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To cut a long story short, I drove through the ANPR for our LTN area with the wrong car which is also registered to the same address as our other car which has an LTN permit (LTN residents permit is limited to one per household). This is fairly newly implemented (about a month) for local residents to be able to drive through. I had to use the other car that day and muscle memory kicked in since I always drive the other car with a permit for my commute - I knew I screwed up the moment I went past the ANPR.

I've got a day or two left for the discounted 14 day period.


Do I have grounds to ask for leniency?

Document scans here:

https://ibb.co/x8GD7LDW
https://ibb.co/XfJRkmt8
https://ibb.co/35wSsksX
« Last Edit: November 11, 2025, 12:46:28 am by leepox »

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Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #1 on: »
Well, of course you have grounds for leniency, but whether Enfield will soften their granite-hard heart is another matter.

However, nothing ventured, nothing gained, so why not submit representations on the basis of what you have written here, namely local resident with permit but you took the wrong car on the day and ask that the PCN be cancelled on this ocasion as goodwill. They will re-offer the discount if they refuse your reps. No point in just coughing-up; let them do at least some work for their money.

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Please look at the first link n my forum profile and use it. PCN is in valid. PCN is missing mandatory information.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #3 on: »
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« Last Edit: November 11, 2025, 04:49:03 pm by leepox »

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #4 on: »
Thanks Hippocrates - I've read your link, and just to  make sure I got this right:

Mandatory information is missing pertaining to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted:

(v) that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable;

Pertaining to: Para. 4 (8 ) (iii):

(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;


Since the statement in the pcn:

"If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £240.00 may be payable..."

As you have noted is:

"It is, therefore, not clear to the motorist that there will be no liability to an
increased charge and a Charge Certificate if representations against the
PCN are made within the 28 day period."


Which is what makes this PCN invalid?

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #5 on: »
Stick it in. Correct. This is a major issue which I intend to raise at the High Court as it affects most of the 34 authorities. I have had some successes.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
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OP, do you have a photo of the regulatory sign pl.

I'm interested in its form which then leads to what contravention could be committed. Similarly, is it 24/7? If so, how can you possibly access your property with a second car when households are limited to one permit? Perhaps you can elect which car to put on the permit at any time/on any day. If so, pl explain this in more detail.

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
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OP, do you have a photo of the regulatory sign pl.

I'm interested in its form which then leads to what contravention could be committed. Similarly, is it 24/7? If so, how can you possibly access your property with a second car when households are limited to one permit? Perhaps you can elect which car to put on the permit at any time/on any day. If so, pl explain this in more detail.

Screen capture of the restricted entry point:
https://ibb.co/ns2YRSGw

There's a single access road without restrictions that ALL households  had to use to enter/exit the residential area. It's only recent  that the "back road" where this LTN was in plce since 5 years ago ish has been re-opened again to residents.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2025, 10:38:33 pm by leepox »

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #8 on: »
Hi all - just to update. My appeal has been rejected. Here's the letter.

Is it worth continuing to appeal? Or is it time to cough up valuable hard earned cash for a silly PCN?

« Last Edit: December 15, 2025, 12:45:35 am by leepox »

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #9 on: »
Please post up a copy of what you submitted as reps, so we can see how well the council considered them.

Not sure why you've redacted the Ref.Mark and PCN number?
« Last Edit: December 15, 2025, 09:06:14 am by John U.K. »

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« Reply #10 on: »
Yes please. I am minded to say Tribunal time as the NOR is wrong too.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #11 on: »
hi, here's what I submitted on the online submission form:

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Question 1 : 'Please explain in as much detail as possible why you think your PCN should be cancelled
Answer : 'I am challenging PCN EF99478889 on the ground of procedural impropriety. The PCN fails to comply with Section 4( 8 ) of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, which requires it to state that the penalty must be paid within 28 days from the date of the notice and that, if not paid by the end of that period, an increased charge may be payable.

Enfield’s PCN instead states:

“If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £240.00 may be payable.”

This wording is non-compliant and misleading, as it substitutes “date of service” for “date of notice” and implies a charge may increase even if representations are made. This ambiguity prejudices the motorist and renders the notice invalid.

Please see my attached full letter (PDF) for detailed reasoning and references.'

Question 2 : 'Would you like to upload any other documents to support your case?'
Answer : 'Yes'
Question 3 : 'Please upload a copy of your supporting document(s)'
Answer : 'File uploaded'

==========================================================================================


And then I attached the following letter:

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Subject: Formal Representations against PCN No: EF99478889
Vehicle Registration: YH09 CDV
Date of Notice: 05/11/2025
Contravention Code: 52M Failure to comply with the prohibition of motor vehicles
________________________________________
To whom it may concern,
I am writing to make formal representations against the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) on the grounds that the PCN fails to comply with the mandatory requirements of Section 4( 8 ) of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, thereby constituting a procedural impropriety.
________________________________________
1. Failure to Include Mandatory Information
Section 4( 8 ) of the 2003 Act sets out the information that must be contained within a penalty charge notice. Specifically, it requires under subsection (iii) and (v) that the PCN must state:
“(iii) that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;”
“(v) that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28-day period, an increased charge may be payable.”
However, the PCN issued by Enfield Council instead states:
“If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £240.00 may be payable.”
This wording is not compliant with the statutory requirements for the following reasons:
• The legislation requires the 28-day period to begin with the date of the notice, not the date of service.
• The PCN’s wording conflates the payment and representation periods, creating ambiguity as to when the increased charge may be applied.
• It does not clearly state that no increased charge or charge certificate will be issued if representations are made within the 28-day period.
As has been observed in similar adjudications, this creates uncertainty for the motorist and fails to convey the mandatory legal position that making representations within the 28-day period prevents any escalation of the charge.
________________________________________
2. Resulting Ambiguity and Prejudice
The PCN as issued gives the misleading impression that the charge may be increased even where representations have been duly submitted within the statutory period. This uncertainty is prejudicial to the recipient and renders the notice non-compliant with the Act.
This defect has been recognised in previous adjudications where councils have been found to have used non-compliant wording, resulting in appeals being allowed on the grounds of procedural impropriety (e.g. Eleanor Macwhinnie v London Borough of Hounslow, Case reference 2250221909).
________________________________________
3. Conclusion
For the reasons stated above, the PCN fails to comply with the statutory requirements of Section 4( 8 ) of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. Consequently, the PCN is invalid and unenforceable, and I respectfully request that it be cancelled forthwith.
Please confirm in writing that the PCN has been cancelled.

Kind regards,
XXX

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« Last Edit: December 18, 2025, 03:27:23 am by leepox »

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #12 on: »
Bump ^

I take it that I'll have to cough up £80?

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #13 on: »
In your shoes I would PM @Hippocrates for advice before paying, as paying closes the case.

Re: Low Traffic Neighbourhood ANPR Penalty Charge Notice
« Reply #14 on: »
PM received.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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