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My issue with this is not so much the contravention on 11/11/2025 – but that this is the first I had heard of this. I received a letter (Charge Certificate) c. 16th/17th April (dated 13th April).
But have had no prior notice of this at all.


I did move house in November 2025 and I have already chased (DVLA) and had a letter from DVLA - back in January - that they messed up (lost) my address change on V5s. That aside, the first I hear about this should not be Charge Certificate where they have now upped things to £240.00

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Piccadilly - Dover/Arlington
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There are no images of the contravention - just the charge cert' shown here.







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I am used to fighting private parking companies so this council stuff is all a bit new to me, but I did find a previous post of mine regarding a missed/late bus lane charge from Barking/Dagenham...

I had to wait for OFR to register at TEC - and use PE3 form or something.. i dont know if the same sort of rules apply with this box junction.  :-\
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There's a statutory process to get it reset if you didn't get the original PCN:

https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/

You need to he proactive and get the necessary forms sent off once the debt is registered - there's a limited no of days where the council must cancel the OFR - after that it is out of time and the council can reject it.
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Quote from: Secret_Squirrel1970 on April 19, 2026, 04:52:50 pm

There are no images of the contravention - just the charge cert' shown here.


The Westminster website
View the evidence, pay or challenge my Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)
appeals.westminster.gov.uk
has photos and a video.
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Quote from: catnip on April 19, 2026, 06:05:32 pm
Quote from: Secret_Squirrel1970 on April 19, 2026, 04:52:50 pm

There are no images of the contravention - just the charge cert' shown here.


The Westminster website
View the evidence, pay or challenge my Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)
appeals.westminster.gov.uk
has photos and a video.

Cheers, found them.... although it seems moot at this point as I am waiting for the OFR to then get it knocked back to getting the original PCN.
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Quote from: RichardW on April 19, 2026, 06:00:32 pm
There's a statutory process to get it reset if you didn't get the original PCN:

https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/

You need to he proactive and get the necessary forms sent off once the debt is registered - there's a limited no of days where the council must cancel the OFR - after that it is out of time and the council can reject it.


Thanks, that's the process I remember from before with a bus lane or some such in Dagenham.
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I have kept checking with TEC - still not registered.

I imagine the Councils drag their feet a bit so as to save the £10 fee which I assume comes from their budget.

Meanwhile a letter from Marstons Debt Collectors - acting on behalf of the council - the debt is still £240, so no £10 extra fee added on, not at OFR state yet.

Should have contemplated this earlier it is likely too late now, or may not be advisable - is it worth direct to council pointing out it will cost them £10, I will get it knocked back down to the original amount anyway so why don't they just offer me that now and not bother with the extra stage?  I am not contesting the ticket/PCN just the fact that is has become inflated to £240 due to DVLA and postal service being shoddy.
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It is urgent that you post up the letter from Marsdens, please.
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Quote from: Incandescent on June 02, 2026, 11:48:43 am
It is urgent that you post up the letter from Marsdens, please.

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Ok, it's fine, the letter is just a debt collector intimidation letter, and in my view, illegal intimidation, because there is a legal process to be followed which does not include debt collectors at this stage, so passing on the matter to debt collectors is unlawful. That's my view, anyway. You will notice that the letter makes no mention of the facility to submit a Statutory Declaration.

So, on to debt registration, which will add £10 to the amount, and you can then submit a Statutory Declaration to get the matter reverted back to the PCN stage.
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And just to be sure just checked with TEC and still not registered with them as yet.

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Sorry to disagree with Incandescent, but the second-to-last para. contains far  more useful info on the procedure than the average Charge Cert and I'm not certain that an extra-procedural step equates to unlawful. Also, when was the last time we saw a council willing to take(albeit conditional) payments?
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