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31J @ Forest Road / Russell Road E17
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I've received a PCN for 31J entering & stopping in box junction Forest Road / Russell Road E17and noticed a few past posts on this box junction.

PCN here


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& video (clink on link> https://i.imgur.com/r5Tey9j.mp4
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Any likelihood of success in challenging it?
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I would pay the discount.
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Quote from: Hippocrates on April 14, 2024, 02:25:59 pm
I would pay the discount.
I wouldn't, it looks to me like there was more than enough space to clear the box.

@nomis56 I hope you haven't paid already?
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Well, I have to say, I side with Hippo on this one. It is surely a gamble at London Tribunals ? When I look at the video the car length left in the box doesn't look as if it would fit in the space forward without nudging the motorcyclist.
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Quote from: Incandescent on April 20, 2024, 12:58:19 am
Well, I have to say, I side with Hippo on this one. It is surely a gamble at London Tribunals ? When I look at the video the car length left in the box doesn't look as if it would fit in the space forward without nudging the motorcyclist.
Well I reckon I could win this one, but it's probably academic as @nomis56 has probably paid it already.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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