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Dear all
I hope you don’t mind me reaching out. I’ve recently received a Penalty Charge Notice for contravention code 52m – Failing to comply with a prohibition on motor vehicles, and I’m feeling quite overwhelmed about what to do next. £80 pounds is a lot of money that I could spend on my young family.
My wife went to meet her parents and reversed our car into a no entry road (York Road) in Leyton as there is literally no space elsewhere to the reverse the car due to all the recent road changes they have made and her back tyres just literally crossed the line and we got a parking ticket. Do we have any grounds to appeal as just the back tyres crossed the line not the whole car.

https://ibb.co/qFkKLtvh
https://ibb.co/tPLWtJHd

I would be grateful for any advice.
Many thanks

Shaun
« Last Edit: December 12, 2025, 10:35:05 pm by aquaman »

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any help would greatly be appreciated
« Last Edit: December 12, 2025, 10:34:38 pm by aquaman »

Ridiculous. That's not a contravention as whole vehicle didn't go beyond the signs. And what's with those yellow lines? Here the only area you backed into is the equivalent of a verge between roads.

« Last Edit: December 12, 2025, 10:53:13 pm by stamfordman »

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A ridiculous money-grubbing PCN from a venal and rapacious council. If it were me, I'd take them to London Tribunals, but it's your money. I would submit reps on the basis of the contravention did not occur, as you were merely engaged in a manoevre to turn your car around, as the council have now made it extremely difficult to turn a vehicle around with the new traffic layout.  What a delivery van or a removals van does, I hate to think !
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For these types of alleged contraventions, is there a visible demarcation line that must be [wholly/partially] crossed? and/or will the corresponding TMO refer to e.g. double-yellow lines?

I think an adjudicator would throw this out on triviality grounds but this is what the traffic order says - note 'enter... within  a 2.5 metre gap'.

Note: York Road is a dead end and has parking bays so reversing out may have been the best way to turn around and obey the second and third extracts from the experimental order.

But mind the gap!

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2. Prescribed Routes

2.1 No person shall cause or permit any motor vehicle to enter or proceed in Adelaide Road, E10, within a 2.5 metre gap between the intersection of the north eastern kerb line of York Road and north western kerb line of Adelaide Road (outside No. 42 Adelaide Road), and the intersection of the south western kerb line of York Road and south western kerb line of Adelaide Road (outside No. 27 Adelaide Road).

2.4 No person shall cause or permit any motor vehicle:
(vi) travelling north-westbound in York Road, E10 between its junctions with Ruckholt Road E10 and Adelaide Road E10 to enter that section of Adelaide Road E10 north-west of the southeast kerb line of Adelaide Road except to turn north-east into Adelaide Road;

2.5 every person causing any vehicle to proceed:
v) in York Road E10 between its junctions with Ruckholt Road E10 and Adelaide Road E10, shall cause that vehicle on reaching its junction with Adelaide Road E10 to turn right only;



https://store.traffweb.app/walthamforest/documents/parkmap/sched/ET8(25)%20Experimental%20Traffic%20Orders%20(ETRO)%20-%20Oliver%20Rd%20to%20HRL%20traffic%20imps.pdf

In addition to the above responses with which I wholly agree:

1. See my first link in my profile re the PCN wording.
2. Please screenshot their website AS IF to make a representation and report back.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Hi all,

Many thanks for your responses, I am very grateful. I was going to mention the below, but if someone could kindly draft a better response I would be very grateful.

The contravention has not occurred as I was merely doing a maneuver as I have a large SUV vehicle and given the new road layout as attached it is virtually impossible to reverse your car as York road is a dead end and also as a bike shop which is very busy during the day ( I will upload the new road layout) .  On this basis I would be grateful if you could cancel the ticket.

thanks

Shaun

I should add my technical point too. Back later.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r