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I don't do Tuesdays. So, this will have to be adjourned to a Wednesday, Friday or Saturday. PM received. We had better communicate by phone to sort out a date, which will most probably be March now. PM sent.
@Hippocrates
Rescheduled to: Friday 20 March 2026 - 3:30pm

Any good for you?
« Last Edit: November 05, 2025, 05:57:54 pm by markie76 »

Yes but we need to talk.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

It was vital to attend this. My only personal hearing was with the same adjudicator and he was dismissive of unsighted signage in a case where my wife was driving and we failed to convince him despite good evidence.

This one backed up by the case I cited should have been won but I doubt it can be reviewed.

The critical factor of where the CCTV is seems to lost on Mr Harman.

The attendance by Camden is noteworthy.

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Case reference 2250362354
Appellant xxxxxx
Authority London Borough of Camden
VRM FV23JVH
PCN Details
PCN CU70251787
Contravention date 12 Mar 2025
Contravention time 18:11:00
Contravention location Tottenham Court Road by J/W Howland Street
Penalty amount GBP 130.00
Contravention Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
Referral date -
Decision Date 31 Oct 2025
Adjudicator Andrew Harman
Appeal decision Appeal refused
Direction Full penalty charge notice amount stated to be paid within 28 days.
Reasons
Mrs Cummins, for the council, attended the hearing of this appeal today on the Microsoft Teams video conferencing platform.

The appellant did not attend the hearing.

I decided the appeal in his absence.

The contravention alleged in these proceedings was that this vehicle, at Tottenham Court Road, used a route restricted to certain vehicles.

I acknowledged the submissions made by the appellant around the issue of signage.

The council is required to sign this restriction with one regulatory sign only.

Signage was I found, on the council's cctv footage of the incident, which I viewed, visible, and, I inferred, fully within the appellant's line of vision. I was satisfied that it was clear and correct. I noted that prior to meeting the restriction, the appellant also failed to comply with a mandatory direction to turn left at the preceding junction.

I was satisfied against this background that this contravention had occurred.

The appeal was refused.

Yes but it is advisable to place two terminal signs in some circumstances.

Chapter Three TSM

1.8.5.  There is no specific requirement that signs indicating the beginning of a restriction
or prohibition must be placed on each side of the road or on each side of the appropriate
carriageway of a dual carriageway road (see 8.2 in respect of speed limit signs). This
relaxation has been made to reduce environmental impact, but care should be taken to
ensure that a single sign is clearly visible to all road users and does not give rise to
issues relating to enforcement or road safety. This might require a single sign in some instances to be placed on
the off side of the road
« Last Edit: November 11, 2025, 02:35:02 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Harman has got it totally wrong; the requirement is to erect adequate signage. Whilst a single sign is the minumum requirement, the location where the signs are to be placed should decide the number of signs and whether advance warning is needed.

So 0/10 for Harman in my book. No doubt he wants a quiet life if he's nearing retirement.


Case reference   2250337302
Appellant   xxxxxx
Authority   London Borough of Camden
VRM   LF74ZOM
PCN Details
PCN   CU70881220
Contravention date   15 May 2025
Contravention time   18:14:00
Contravention location   Tottenham Court Road by junction with Howland Street
Penalty amount   GBP 160.00
Contravention   Using a route restricted to certain vehicles
Referral date   -
Decision Date   19 Nov 2025
Adjudicator   Chez Cotton
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons   
Introduction


1. The Appellant challenges a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued for using a route restricted to certain vehicles (Code 33).

2. This a postal appeal.

The Appellant’s case


3. The Appellant’s case is that the signage is unclear and inadequate, comprising only of one on the left-hand side. This was obscured by a large vehicle turning left at the time the Appellant approached the relevant road.

4. The Appellant refers to personal and financial circumstances.

5. In these circumstances the Appellant asks for the PCN to be cancelled.

Enforcement Authority’s Case


6. The Enforcement Authority (EA) rely on footage to show the contravention occurred. A plan and photographs of the signage has been provided. The EA says this shows the restriction is signed and clear, and, further, enforceable under a valid Traffic Management Order (TMO), a copy of which is provided.

7. The EA has considered the Appellant's representations and does not wish to exercise their discretion.

8. The EA maintain the PCN was correctly issued.

Findings and Conclusion


9. I have considered the evidence of both parties carefully.

10. Based on the footage provided, and additional evidential materials from the EA, I am satisfied the Appellant’s vehicle is shown at the relevant location, at the relevant time. I am further satisfied that if a contravention occurred it is enforceable by way of a valid Traffic Management Order, which I have seen.

11. The question I must decide is whether the signage is adequate to inform a reasonably careful, competent driver of the restriction, and allow for an alternative course to be taken to avoid the contravention.

12. In this respect I note the location is a busy road, with several pedestrians in the area. I note the signage is placed very near to a pedestrian crossing. I note there are building works taking place adjacent to where the signage is placed, with scaffolding and notices pasted onto the boarding. I note there is a large red banner/notice that appears to be very near to the next post along to whether the signage is positioned. Taking all these factors into account, on balance, I am not satisfied that the single signage is adequate at this particular location, but is, instead ‘lost’ in the general activity and numerous competing signage and activity.

13. I further consider, the single sign is in danger of being obscured by any large vehicle turning left into what appears to be an active building construction sight, as is shown on the footage in the Appellant’s case.

14. On balance, I consider the library shot of the signage shows a clarity that is not present at the location itself.

15. I have also considered the additional photographic evidence presented by the EA under ‘Category H – Map/Site report’. I do not find these to be of assistance, save for showing the wider location. On balance, I am not persuaded that this is evidence that shows adequate warning signage in relation to the relevant location that is subject of this appeal.

16. For these reasons, on balance, I am not satisfied a contravention occurred. It follows that I am not satisfied the PCN has been validly issued.

Decision


17. The appeal is allowed.