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Re: Camden PCN for using bus lane - can I appeal?
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2024, 11:02:57 am »
Quote from: mrmustard on May 17, 2024, 07:58:48 am
We can see from the images that the signs are missing. I took a Mov 23 PCN to the tribunal for a skip lorry which used the short bus lane to turn left and the council threw in the towel rather than fight the case.

I go to the tribunal nearly every week. I won 5-0 yesterday. Perfectly happy to be the representative (no charge, only a charity donation).

@mrmustard Thanks for the decision in this case. 2240058200.  I assume the same camera was used and no VCA certificate to cover Para. 7(6)?
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Re: Camden PCN for using bus lane - can I appeal?
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2024, 05:50:04 pm »
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Re: Camden PCN for using bus lane - can I appeal?
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2024, 09:02:57 pm »
Quote from: Hippocrates on October 06, 2024, 07:58:34 pm
DNCed. Costs application to follow. The correspondence between the parking manager and me is quite incredulous - from her side, and from my point of view! Total admission (involuntary) that the camera is a Bosch!  :o  ::)

More to follow as many appeals have been lost at this location. If I find that adjudicators have refused appeals  for this same camera, then it hits the fan.

I am seriously vexed.


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@ mrmustard Camera 207 - which is without certification/approval - has resulted in refused appeals. More to follow. Incredulous. I will get to the bottom of this. PAPL time but I need to follow the complaints process first - yet again.
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There are known knowns which, had we known, we would never have wished to know. It is known that this also applies to the known unknowns. However, when one attends a hearing, Mr Rumsfeld's idea that there are also unknown unknowns fails to apply because, anyone who is in the know, knows that unknown unknowns are purely a deception otherwise known as an aleatory experience or also known as a lottery. I know that I know this to be a fact and, in this knowledge, I know that I am fully prepared to present my case but, paradoxically, in full knowledge that the unknown unknowns may well apply.
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