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Can anyone help with this? My parents are not from London and received this PCN through the post saying they entered a bus lane. I've not driven in London for a long time and well are of bus lanes cannot be entered by cars but I have never seen a whole road dedicated to a bus lane before!?

I have zoomed in on the image and the only thing I can possibly see is a small blue bus image on a pole with times on it, does this mean ONLY buses are allowed to go down that road at all during that time? Would we have grounds to appeal on basis the signage was not big enough?

Imo, it should also have the word ONLY at the bottom of the sign if we are going by the letter of the law!

I can add the PCN if it helps but any help appreciated as this feels strong to pay £80!!



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Re: Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
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Yes it's a bus gate at those times.

I don't think the signage is adequate but adjudicators have found it OK - see a case towards the end of this thread:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/camden-using-a-route-restricted-to-certain-vehicles-local-buses-cycles-only-urge/

The OP in that thread though has a good case on not being to see as being on a m/c behind a vehicle.
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ONLY is no linger required.
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Re: Camden borough 'bus lane as whole road'
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Quote from: stamfordman on November 03, 2025, 04:01:36 pm
Yes it's a bus gate at those times.

I don't think the signage is adequate but adjudicators have found it OK - see a case towards the end of this thread:

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/camden-using-a-route-restricted-to-certain-vehicles-local-buses-cycles-only-urge/

The OP in that thread though has a good case on not being to see as being on a m/c behind a vehicle.
It's curious as along TCR there are four 'bus gates';
2 have a sign on each side of the road.
2 have a single sign.
Some have an arrow painted on the carriageway.
Don't remember if any had any 'advance warning' when I walked along TCR.

At junction of Howland Road;
In addition just one of the ATS has the 'turn left' blue arrow and guess which one I was looking at?
(yes the one the local authority have not included any photographs of in their evidence pack)
« Last Edit: November 05, 2025, 05:11:48 pm by markie76 »
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Is the restriction preceded by warning signs? If so, let's see it/them pl.
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