Author Topic: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford  (Read 1828 times)

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Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Please don't register anything, I'll drop you a PM.

Email sent, thank you CP

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Outcome, review to follow.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Where did this adjudicator come from ! From what he is saying, there is no need for any of the statutory grounds to be shown on the PCN at all; if you can miss one, out you can miss them all out. All a council need do is put in an invitation to object to the PCN. One has to wonder why the regulations were written at all as it seems from what this adjudicator says, compliance with regulations that mandate the content of a statutory document is totally unnecessary, and they are merely guidance !

The case just illustrates the mountains motorists must climb.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2023, 05:53:50 pm by Incandescent »

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
« Reply #18 on: »
Review outcome, which include an unlawful decision not to have a hearing, but it just wouldn't be worth pursuing this any further.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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That's a decision that needs fighting at every chance a PI and other reasons are distinctly different which is why a PI is defined as it is

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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I am speechless.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Looking at the on street signs the road is not signed as a bus lane but as a bus gate. Bus gate signage falls under moving traffic PCN’s. An example being sign 953 which would be contravention code 33 Using a route restricted to certain vehicles (buses and taxis only).

The sign used here is 953B but this sign is not listed as a sign that can be enforced under the TMA 2004.

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Looking at the on street signs the road is not signed as a bus lane but as a bus gate. Bus gate signage falls under moving traffic PCN’s. An example being sign 953 which would be contravention code 33 Using a route restricted to certain vehicles (buses and taxis only).

The sign used here is 953B but this sign is not listed as a sign that can be enforced under the TMA 2004.
As far as I'm aware Oxfordshire County Council, R (on the application of) v The Bus Lane Adjudicator [2010] EWHC 894 (Admin) deals with that argument.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Good evening all,

I'm new to the forum but have today received the exact same Bus Lane Penalty Charge Notice as FREE PARKING did.

Further reading suggests that the representation to challenge that was reviewed and rejected at Tribunal stage.

Could you please confirm that this is in fact the case and therefore that I should accept the charge notice and pay the £35 within 21 days to avoid the full £70?

I genuinely did not see any signs that I should not travel that route but it is not an area I have been to before - Thats not to say they were not there... I just did not see them.

Kind Regards in advance

Re: Bus Lane PCN - Chelmsford
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Good evening all,

I'm new to the forum but have today received the exact same Bus Lane Penalty Charge Notice as FREE PARKING did.


Please to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and start your own thread (forum rule is one case per thread), and post there

a brief account of the circumastances,
all sides of the PCN, redactingh only yr name & address),
the video (this is the evidence) and any council photos,
and a GSV link to the location.

By all means reference this thread with a link in your own thread.