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Hi All,
I received a letter from Bristow&Sutor today(26/09/2025) with a payment deadline via my accountancy address on 23/09/2025 . It states about National Highway DART payment due .However I already have a direct Debit for my Car in the DART portal since April .
It mentions warrant is issued dated 25th July and 1st Compliance stage fee as 75£ adding to 117£ debt and total to 192.50£ .There are no details on the day of the issue and appeal..Just a letter to pay or DebtManagement will visit to confiscate the belongings.

Can you please guide what needs to be done here ?

The link for the pdf is herein-

https://imgur.com/a/XEPB8A7

https://1drv.ms/b/c/8af311400893ecfb/EfO6B96KGCFFg2_c2uHpNQwBpLAJoAJhIpaj7JUMsgSS-g?e=XR6Ls7
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READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**, https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Thanks I reviewed and Updated the contents.
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You've redacted the vehicle reg form the posted document. You are explicitly told not to redact the PCN number and the vehicle reg in the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!** sticky post to be found at the top of this forum.

What is the vehicle reg?

Is the Notice of Enforcement addressed to you at your address? Or might it be addressed to a company? Or perhaps a lease company?

I ask because you seem to be missing most of the statutory notices. The postal PCN, Charge Certificate and the the Order for Recovery. So where did they go to?

The PCN and subsequent notices would have been sent (served) to the person or entity at the address held by the DVLA as being the Registered Keeper at the time of contravention. The RK is presumed to be the owner of the vehicle and is liable for the penalty. Are you the RK?

Do you know the date of the original PCN?

The DART people are normally pretty good at cancelling PCNs for a first offence. They also had problems with collecting the charges in the past. Might the failure to pay the charge have happened before you set up the auto-pay?
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Quote from: azuremumbai80 on September 26, 2025, 06:39:58 pm
Hi All,
I received a letter from Bristow&Sutor today(26/09/2025) with a payment deadline via my accountancy address on 23/09/2025 . It states about National Highway DART payment due .However I already have a direct Debit for my Car in the DART portal since April .
It mentions warrant is issued dated 25th July and 1st Compliance stage fee as 75£ adding to 117£ debt and total to 192.50£ .There are no details on the day of the issue and appeal..Just a letter to pay or DebtManagement will visit to confiscate the belongings.

Can you please guide what needs to be done here ?

The link for the pdf is herein-

https://imgur.com/a/Dj2Qhbs
https://1drv.ms/b/c/8af311400893ecfb/EbBGCp1AwC9CueV9Sz4Uvd0B16PJb67rW2HYjS1ej9-9Vg?e=iAFZFR

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Hi Enceladus,
Please find my response and the latest image(no vehicle redaction- Just company name/address)   at https://imgur.com/a/XEPB8A7

1. Vehicle Registration- WN74ZTL.

2. Is the Notice of Enforcement addressed to you at your address? Or might it be addressed to a company? Or perhaps a lease company?
The Notice of Enforcement was addressed to the Company Secretary as it is a company Lease vehicle and I am the registered keeper. The address was send to the Accountant address for the company communication. Though the address was requested for update earlier year to the vehicle finance company.


3.The PCN and subsequent notices would have been sent (served) to the person or entity at the address held by the DVLA as being the Registered Keeper at the time of contravention. The RK is presumed to be the owner of the vehicle and is liable for the penalty. Are you the RK?

Yes I am the Registered keeper of the vehicle and I was not informed of any PCN or notices at the company address or Accountants address) ..I just received the letter yesterday .

I emailed DART (who were also called in April for non charge ) who responded the below

To challenge the issue of an Order for Recovery you must file a witness statement with the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC). To do this, fully complete and submit a TE9 form for each individual PCN.
 
Once you have completed the form, save the changes and send an email with the completed form to tec@justice.gov.uk. Alternatively, you can send it by post to Traffic Enforcement Centre, County Court Business Centre, St. Katharine's House, 21 – 27 St. Katharine's Street, Northampton, NN1 2LH.


 

What is the vehicle reg?

Is the Notice of Enforcement addressed to you at your address? Or might it be addressed to a company? Or perhaps a lease company?

I ask because you seem to be missing most of the statutory notices. The postal PCN, Charge Certificate and the the Order for Recovery. So where did they go to?

The PCN and subsequent notices would have been sent (served) to the person or entity at the address held by the DVLA as being the Registered Keeper at the time of contravention. The RK is presumed to be the owner of the vehicle and is liable for the penalty. Are you the RK?

Do you know the date of the original PCN?

The DART people are normally pretty good at cancelling PCNs for a first offence. They also had problems with collecting the charges in the past. Might the failure to pay the charge have happened before you set up the auto-pay?
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Quote from: azuremumbai80 on September 28, 2025, 11:47:23 am
Hi Enceladus,
Please find my response and the latest image(no vehicle redaction- Just company name/address)  at https://imgur.com/a/XEPB8A7

1. Vehicle Registration- WN74ZTL.

2. Is the Notice of Enforcement addressed to you at your address? Or might it be addressed to a company? Or perhaps a lease company?
The Notice of Enforcement was addressed to the Company Secretary as it is a company Lease vehicle and I am the registered keeper. The address was send to the Accountant address for the company communication. Though the address was requested for update earlier year to the vehicle finance company.


3.The PCN and subsequent notices would have been sent (served) to the person or entity at the address held by the DVLA as being the Registered Keeper at the time of contravention. The RK is presumed to be the owner of the vehicle and is liable for the penalty. Are you the RK?

Yes I am the Registered keeper of the vehicle and I was not informed of any PCN or notices at the company address or Accountants address) ..I just received the letter yesterday .

I emailed DART (who were also called in April for non charge ) who responded the below

To challenge the issue of an Order for Recovery you must file a witness statement with the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC). To do this, fully complete and submit a TE9 form for each individual PCN.
 
Once you have completed the form, save the changes and send an email with the completed form to tec@justice.gov.uk. Alternatively, you can send it by post to Traffic Enforcement Centre, County Court Business Centre, St. Katharine's House, 21 – 27 St. Katharine's Street, Northampton, NN1 2LH.


 

What is the vehicle reg?

Is the Notice of Enforcement addressed to you at your address? Or might it be addressed to a company? Or perhaps a lease company?

I ask because you seem to be missing most of the statutory notices. The postal PCN, Charge Certificate and the the Order for Recovery. So where did they go to?

The PCN and subsequent notices would have been sent (served) to the person or entity at the address held by the DVLA as being the Registered Keeper at the time of contravention. The RK is presumed to be the owner of the vehicle and is liable for the penalty. Are you the RK?

Do you know the date of the original PCN?

The DART people are normally pretty good at cancelling PCNs for a first offence. They also had problems with collecting the charges in the past. Might the failure to pay the charge have happened before you set up the auto-pay?
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The TE9 form for appeal mentions a clause to appeal - I did not receive the PCN .

Was wondering if I should use the option as I never received any PCN from DART and was not even reported by my accountant who maintains the communication and business address.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62e14db38fa8f5649f912647/TE9.pdf
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The Notice of Enforcement was addressed to the Company Secretary as it is a company Lease vehicle and I am the registered keeper. The address was send to the Accountant address for the company communication. Though the address was requested for update earlier year to the vehicle finance company.


Yes I am the Registered keeper of the vehicle and I was not informed of any PCN or notices at the company address or Accountants address) ..I just received the letter yesterday .

I very much doubt that you are the 'registered keeper'. In fact, I suspect you are well down the legal liability tree:

Vehicle finance company;
Your company/employer(vehicle lessee);
You(e.g. authorised driver, officer of the company etc).

Anyway, what happens next?

If the debt is not paid(by anyone, even you) then bailiffs may attend the address of the legal entity named on the NoE and SEIZE goods.

Not something you particularly want to happen, do you.

IMO, having regard to what appears to be the pass-the-parcel approach of your company and that the payment deadline on the NoE has passed I suggest you PAY the debt and argue* the toss afterwards.

*- remember that if you are not named on the NoE then without written authorisation of the person who is they MAY NOT deal with you because you are a legal stranger to these proceedings. NEITHER will the Traffic Enforcement Centre, so don't bother with any submission unless you have the addressee's permission in writing.
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Quote from: H C Andersen on September 28, 2025, 12:30:07 pm
The Notice of Enforcement was addressed to the Company Secretary as it is a company Lease vehicle and I am the registered keeper. The address was send to the Accountant address for the company communication. Though the address was requested for update earlier year to the vehicle finance company.


Yes I am the Registered keeper of the vehicle and I was not informed of any PCN or notices at the company address or Accountants address) ..I just received the letter yesterday .

I very much doubt that you are the 'registered keeper'. In fact, I suspect you are well down the legal liability tree:

Vehicle finance company;
Your company/employer(vehicle lessee);
You(e.g. authorised driver, officer of the company etc).

Anyway, what happens next?

If the debt is not paid(by anyone, even you) then bailiffs may attend the address of the legal entity named on the NoE and SEIZE goods.

Not something you particularly want to happen, do you.

IMO, having regard to what appears to be the pass-the-parcel approach of your company and that the payment deadline on the NoE has passed I suggest you PAY the debt and argue* the toss afterwards.

*- remember that if you are not named on the NoE then without written authorisation of the person who is they MAY NOT deal with you because you are a legal stranger to these proceedings. NEITHER will the Traffic Enforcement Centre, so don't bother with any submission unless you have the addressee's permission in writing.


Thanks.
If the bailiffs attend the address of the legal entity named on the NoE , there wont be the required goods to seize as the car is not on the address of the NoE. It is with the registered keepers address.
Any thoughts ?
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Bailiffs can seize goods on the public highway. See here Schedule 12 Section 9 of the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/15/schedule/12
also note Section 10.

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Yes. My thoughts are that I still don't know who is the Registered Keeper as held by the DVLA on the day of the alleged contravention.

Is it a finance or lease company at their address?
Is it your company at the companies address?
Is it your company at your accountants address?
Or is it you personally at your own address?
Or who and where?

You were badly advised by DART. A Witness Statement on it's own will not suffice, the matter has progressed beyond that. You would also need to support the WS with an Out of Time application. DART can and likely will oppose any such application.

However you can only submit a WS & OOT if you are the person named on the Order for Recovery or the Notice of Enforcement.

Do you know whether the alleged contravention occurred before or after you setup the auto-pay?

Actually an enquiry on the DART website using your VRM returns "There are currently no PCNs outstanding on this vehicle".
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If the bailiffs attend the address of the legal entity named on the NoE , there wont be the required goods to seize as the car is not on the address of the NoE. It is with the registered keepers address.
Any thoughts ?

Yes. Your understanding is misplaced.

Goods is not the car, it is any goods which the bailiff reasonably believes belong to the debtor(the person named on the NoE*), even computers, monitors, printers etc.. The car often represents easy pickings because they use ANPR to track down vehicles.

Why, why, why do you keep referring to 'the registered keeper's address' when clearly this person isn't? Only you know the answer.

Anyway, the longer the debtor procrastinates and the longer you prevaricate (hope I've applied these correctly) the greater the debt becomes.

*- I refer to NoE because this is all that concerns the bailiff. Two separate but linked procedures are in place here: road traffic contravention legislation and this - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/15/schedule/12
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Quote from: Enceladus on September 29, 2025, 12:03:32 am

Actually an enquiry on the DART website using your VRM returns "There are currently no PCNs outstanding on this vehicle".

Just so that you are aware, once a Dart Charge penalty has been passed an enforcement company, the Dart Charge website always states the wording that 'There are currently no PCNs outstanding on this vehicle'. I cannot tell you how confusing this is.

I can only assume that this message has been placed so as to ensure that motorists do not try to make payment direct to Dart Charge instead of the enforcement company.

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Thanks .I agree .

On further reading , I can also see some suggestion on filing a TE9 and TE7 form and send to a tec@juctice.co.uk as the previous PCN was not provided .

You need to complete:
   •   Form TE9 – Statutory Declaration
   •   Form TE7 – Application to file the Statutory Declaration out of time (since you never got the earlier letters)
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