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1. Contravention did not occur – inadequate signage and unclear terms

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1. Contravention did not occur – no car park terms and conditions at location

The orders you posted refer to a parent order - I can't find that, but it probably contains the requirement to park in bay markings. If this goes to the tribunal they would have to produce that but in our off-street cases we have long noted that the order itself must be cited at the location along with contraventions that can give rise to penalties as per the order.

They rejected the challenge

They rejected the challenge. Didnt even acknowledge the lack of signage for off street terms.
Wonder what your thoughts are regarding taking further?
Thanks in advance

Pics below:

There's no car park management purpose to enforcing this and there is no off-street car park signage.

Ask them for the off-street order.

Yes I guess so.

Ask them for the off street order for the car park, and where the terms and conditions notice in the car park.

Hi Stamfordman/all,

They just curtailed the request. Looks like it's going to next stage
Here's their response:


Dear Mr Evans
Traffic Management Act 2004
Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) Number: FR67606846
Vehicle Registration Number: PY60KGA
Contravention Date and Time: 19/01/2026 at 12:33
Contravention Location: Stocksfield Road Estate E17
PCN Code and Description: 86 Not parked correctly within the markings of a bay or
space
I refer to your correspondence in connection with the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) as
mentioned above.
When your informal representation was rejected, our letter advised you how to make an
appeal to the independent adjudicator if you wanted to take the matter further. This can only
happen after the registered keeper of the vehicle receives the Notice to Owner (NtO). At that
stage the charge will be at the full amount of £110.00.
You have now written again to the council and I regret that we cannot deal with further
correspondence at this stage. The Traffic Management Act 2004 lays down firm procedures
for processing parking penalties and if you wish to take the matter further you will need to
wait for the NtO which will be sent to you shortly if you are the registered keeper.
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Equalities Act 2010 - should you have a disability and require a reasonable adjustment to
complete either making a payment or a challenge against a PCN, please email
parking.services@walthamforest.gov.uk or telephone 0203 092 0112 and select option 6.
Yours sincerely
M Main
On Behalf of Parking Services
London Borough of Waltham Forest

Thanks for getting back,
Yeah, seems they are covered here as my estate is stated at the bottom of that page under off street parking "STOCKSFIELD ESTATE (ACCESS FROM STOCKSFIELD ROAD E17) the whole off-street parking and access areas - except for 94 parking bays"
But yeah, if we think they should be showing this through signage onsite I'm happy to proceed with the challenge. I want to fight them to be honest, this was a ridiculous way to treat residents but i prefer going for it when there some hope for sticking it to them

Still waiting for the NTO to come through. Thanks again for all your help here. I'll update again once i receive it.