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Birmingham doesn't offer the discount on rejection so you need to think carefully about challenging this.

Are you from out of town - what was the purpose of journey?

It all depends on whether you are prepared to risk the full PCN penalty or not. If you are, then you have the absolute right in law to submit representations to Birmingham, and then, if rejected, to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.

Here is the advance warning sign of the CAZ (Frank St)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/18jH6xHEEdWKTeSd8

Here are the signs at entry into Frank St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sT87FnURBQhwrdD69
The right-hand sign is badly placed, (or has been turned round after installation),  because the only way to enter Frank St is with a left turn, so the signage can be considered inadequate.

This view also shows inadequacy of signage on this very busy ring road. You'd easily miss the advance sign, and turn in and it would be dangerous to stop at the sign.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/uH2PPAqxoxqQS8D38

And it all happened at night and the signs are not lit.

You say you turned round at the roundabout, but I see no roundabout and there is no video of your car passing any sign. So did you really mean you turned at the triangular island as I show here ? If so then there is no contravention at all.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mWdvyQWYK7BqJYrs5

Their evidence just shows you exiting the zone. I don't know if they provide the video - where did you turn - partly in the camera view maybe.

They must consider discretion if you explain what happened and add what you were trying to do on your trip.

But the danger is if they reject the discount is gone but you can appeal to the tribunal and they don't contest some cases. But the tribunal if it does get heard can't consider mitigation.

I've submitted the representation Online to Birmingham council. I will wait until 13th day for their response. Otherwise, I'll accept the fate and Pay them 60£. I'll be more careful next time. What do u think?

If it were me, I'd take them to the tribunal, because on your evidence you did not pass the sign on the left, but turned round via the triangular island. For me, this means the contravention did not occcur, but it's your money so if you decide to pay the discount, I understand.

Quote from: Incandescent on February 06, 2025, 12:01:29 pm

If it were me, I'd take them to the tribunal, because on your evidence you did not pass the sign on the left, but turned round via the triangular island. For me, this means the contravention did not occcur, but it's your money so if you decide to pay the discount, I understand.

?? The picture shows the OP leaving the zone having presumably passed the entrance signs.

No it doesn't. Look at the Google Street View of the location. OP says he turned into the street, saw the sign, and then turned round using the triangular traffic island, so at no time did he pass the sign on the left. The sign on the right cannot be seen by drivers turning left into the street.

Well Birmingham's evidence does not support this. I can't see how you can look at the picture and come up with not passing the sign if you did a U-turn in that road.   

Is there no video?

Nope.  I don't think videos are taken for CAZ zones. The photos they have are appalling, IMHO