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Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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I made a left turn from Highgate road due to a very long tailback. The end of bus lane sign is situated on the lane after the turning I made. I had no idea I couldn't turn there since it is a road which leads to one parallel to the one I came off of.

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Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AQYfaSH8bY

Please post up the remaining pages of the PCN please.

The first issues that come to mind are vague locus and camera authorisation.

Please give us a link to the exact location on google street view.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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The contravention has already been dealt with.

By whom?  ::)

Complete and utter cryptic nonsense.
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Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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The sign at the junction is twisted.  Cp's point re locus is how many other bus lanes are there on this stretch of road?  I think!
@ALL MEMBERS

I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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#6
Hello
Re PCN
There are only 2 pages the front and back are uploaded.
We need the exact location on google street view in order to investigate the camera issue. Assuming you actually know where this is?

If you don't know / can't work it out, please say so.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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You are now past the 14 days so may as well wait for the Enforcement Notice.  Please do not write to the council now.  We will suggest valid representations when you receive it.  I am happy to take this one on should it go the full distance.  In my view, the PCN is potentially flawed for various reasons.
Last Edit: November 20, 2023, 08:27:54 pm by Hippocrates
@ALL MEMBERS

I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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#10
This is the applicable regulatory sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dZAhdPNznEH2j2xH7

I'll let Hippocrates sort this one out, I'm sure he'll have fun with Camden. Although I have to say, they probably won't turn up!
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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#11
Just had a look at the video again.  What a collage of road legends!  This is a mean PCN. FOIR sent and I will report back. PM sent re redacting personal details.

Becoming a poet:  The fun has begun!  ::)
Last Edit: November 23, 2023, 10:19:44 am by Hippocrates
@ALL MEMBERS

I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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#12
Thank you Hippocrates, I really appreciate your help, however cam you instruct me on deleting
the post with my details visible, I have been trying for 40 minutes and can't see a delete button under the message. :-[
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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Thank you Hippocrates, I really appreciate your help, however cam you instruct me on deleting
the post with my details visible, I have been trying for 40 minutes and can't see a delete button under the message. :-[
I have redacted your address from the post above.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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#14
Thank you Hippocrates, I really appreciate your help, however cam you instruct me on deleting
the post with my details visible, I have been trying for 40 minutes and can't see a delete button under the message. :-[

Just seen this.  No idea;   but, I see cp has done it.  Thanks.
@ALL MEMBERS

I HAVE A HIGH COURT CASE RE JUDICIAL REVIEW BUT WILL DO MY BEST TO ADVISE AND TAKE ON CASES IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Being in a bus lane Highgate Road Camden
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Thank you.

I was on the same stretch of road yesterday and whilst waiting for the traffic to move saw two cars do exactly the same thing I did.