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47J stopped on a restricted busstop or stand (camera enforcement)
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Hi.. I received a pcn through the post when i stopped for a few seconds to quickly drop off my son. I need help appealing this. Please can anyone assist. I have attached the PCN
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Re: 47J stopped on a restricted busstop or stand (camera enforcement)
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this is the video evidence for pcn
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this is the streetview location https://maps.app.goo.gl/jY2zxpN53eUjWwRN6
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If you'd stopped on the double-yellow lines before or after the bus stop, you would have had the board/alight passengers exemption, but there are no exemptions at all for restricted bus stops, apart from a medical emergency preventing you from driving on, or the car going bang.
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It's a gamble but Greenwich is in a mess currently and doesn't supply evidence to the tribunal for a lot of contested PCNs.

But they do contest some properly and may well get their act together.

Eg one of two cases yesterday.

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Case reference  2250246717
Appellant  xxxxxxx
Authority  Royal Borough of Greenwich
VRM  LD21HHO
PCN Details
PCN  GR2335011A
Contravention date  28 Mar 2025
Contravention time  08:05:00
Contravention location  Plumstead Common Road
Penalty amount  N/A
Contravention  Entering and stopping in a box junction
Referral date  -
Decision Date  11 Aug 2025
Adjudicator  Carl Teper
Appeal decision  Appeal allowed
Direction 
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons 
The Authority was successfully notified by the Tribunal on the 19 May 2025 that the appeal in relation to this Penalty Charge Notice would be heard today, the 11 August 2025 at 8:45am.

The Authority has failed to produce a copy of the Penalty Charge Notice or any other evidence.

Without a copy of the Penalty Charge Notice there is no evidence that a contravention occurred.

I must therefore allow this appeal without consideration of any of the issues raised by either party.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2025, 01:12:31 pm by stamfordman »
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Quote from: stamfordman on August 12, 2025, 01:00:02 pm
It's a gamble but Greenwich is in a mess currently and doesn't supply evidence to the tribunal for a lot of contested PCNs.

But they do contest some properly and may well get their act together.

Eg one of two cases yesterday.

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Case reference  2250246717
Appellant  xxxxxxx
Authority  Royal Borough of Greenwich
VRM  LD21HHO
PCN Details
PCN  GR2335011A
Contravention date  28 Mar 2025
Contravention time  08:05:00
Contravention location  Plumstead Common Road
Penalty amount  N/A
Contravention  Entering and stopping in a box junction
Referral date  -
Decision Date  11 Aug 2025
Adjudicator  Carl Teper
Appeal decision  Appeal allowed
Direction 
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons 
The Authority was successfully notified by the Tribunal on the 19 May 2025 that the appeal in relation to this Penalty Charge Notice would be heard today, the 11 August 2025 at 8:45am.

The Authority has failed to produce a copy of the Penalty Charge Notice or any other evidence.

Without a copy of the Penalty Charge Notice there is no evidence that a contravention occurred.

I must therefore allow this appeal without consideration of any of the issues raised by either party.

I hope they (greenwich) do the same for me. Its daylight robbery being charged £160 for stopping a few seconds stop..
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Issue here is it's a solid contravention which won't be hard for them to contest.
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