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Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Did you receive a Notice to Owner, prior to the 25th of November 2023 or not?
You say you appealed, I assume that means you wrote to the Council. Please post up the response.

Hello.

I requested my data from Swansea council for all information to do with my PCN. I have now received a 44 page document of all information attached. Do you want me to show

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Hello,

I requested the files that Swansea Council have on my PCN number and have received a file that I have posted below. Along with the two letters I received from the enforcement agency.

Enforcement letter(s) - https://ibb.co/album/xhN70Q
Swansea Council (Sort images by oldedst) - https://ibb.co/album/p2jfbW
« Last Edit: June 18, 2024, 06:26:49 pm by RhysGrif »

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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That tells me, from a brief glance, that your deadline for payment was actually the 26th!

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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That tells me, from a brief glance, that your deadline for payment was actually the 26th!

So the date that I paid my PCN?

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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That tells me, from a brief glance, that your deadline for payment was actually the 26th!

So the date that I paid my PCN?
You don't rush into anything yet!

Have you actually paid the bailiff?

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council notices?

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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That tells me, from a brief glance, that your deadline for payment was actually the 26th!

So the date that I paid my PCN?
You don't rush into anything yet!

Have you actually paid the bailiff?

Hello,

Yes as my car was clamped at 6:20 in the morning first thing yesterday. I didn't expect them to come back so soon as I don't understand the process of all this. This is the first parking ticket I've ever had.

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council notices?

Hello,

My address is correct on the notes however, I have noticed page 4 & 8 of the documents their system have registered the payment being received at 27/11 21:30. I have the receipt of my payment that was made on the 26/11 17:30.

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council notices?
I have the receipt of my payment that was made on the 26/11 17:30.
So for completeness, can we see that please.
One of my colleagues is going to be looking at your case later tonight.

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council notices?

Hello,

My address is correct on the notes however
Really? So how did so many notices go missing and yet the bailiff notices didn't??

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council notices?
I have the receipt of my payment that was made on the 26/11 17:30.
So for completeness, can we see that please.
One of my colleagues is going to be looking at your case later tonight.

Hello,

I've attached the receipt image for my payment from Swansea council.

https://ibb.co/g7VLwrD

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Have you also checked, in detail, the address on those council notices?

Hello,

My address is correct on the notes however
Really? So how did so many notices go missing and yet the bailiff notices didn't??

Hello,

It does sound extremely far fetched however, I have and can 100% confidently say that I have never received or seen the 'Charge Certificate' & 'TE3 Order For Recovery' from the council. The PDF file is the first time that I have seen these documents. Hence, why I am only now joining this forum and asking for advice as I have not known any of this information.

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Their evidence:

A NTO with date of posting of 26 Oct 2023. A Thursday.

A NTO issued pursuant to the Civil Enforcement etc. Wales Regs 2013 which provides:

Unless the contrary is proved, service of a notice or charge certificate contained in a letter sent by first class post which has been properly addressed, pre-paid and posted is to be taken to have been effected on the second working day after the day of posting.

(3) In paragraph (2), “working day” means any day except-

(a)a Saturday or a Sunday;

The purported 'Date of Service' in the NTO is Saturday 28th Oct. This cannot be.

The date of service in law was 30 Oct. which gives a latest date for payment of 27 Nov.

So you have valid grounds for a WS.


But OP, your OOT reasons need to convince, but so far my reading is that they don't.

As I understand it, you live with your parents and it is their address which you've given to DVLA - perfectly proper because you live there.

So, were you actually at home when the OfR was delivered?




Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
« Reply #28 on: »
Their evidence:

A NTO with date of posting of 26 Oct 2023. A Thursday.

A NTO issued pursuant to the Civil Enforcement etc. Wales Regs 2013 which provides:

Unless the contrary is proved, service of a notice or charge certificate contained in a letter sent by first class post which has been properly addressed, pre-paid and posted is to be taken to have been effected on the second working day after the day of posting.

(3) In paragraph (2), “working day” means any day except-

(a)a Saturday or a Sunday;

The purported 'Date of Service' in the NTO is Saturday 28th Oct. This cannot be.

The date of service in law was 30 Oct. which gives a latest date for payment of 27 Nov.

So you have valid grounds for a WS.


But OP, your OOT reasons need to convince, but so far my reading is that they don't.

As I understand it, you live with your parents and it is their address which you've given to DVLA - perfectly proper because you live there.

So, were you actually at home when the OfR was delivered?

Hello,

Yes I thought that the 28 day period would not include weekends and it would only be valid for 28 working days.

What is the 'OOT' & 'OfR'

Re: Bailiffs Swansea Council - 02 - Page Street
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Out of time and Order for Recovery.

And the answer to my question is?