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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: Hippocrates on November 25, 2023, 08:16:51 pm
Mr Harman allowed costs in a Kingston case in January but not to the representative.  Fair enough.
As above, the representative's costs are only recoverable if the appellant pays for them. Where an appellant has paid for my train tickets to attend the tribunal in person and a costs award has been made, the tribunal has always allowed the appellant to recover those costs from the authority.
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Just had this from the council:

TES Ltd is the Manufacturer and Small Blue is the model.

It took a decision notice from the information commissioner to force them to disclose this, I'll post it on here once it's published.

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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: mrmustard on November 25, 2023, 05:16:54 pm
Good luck with your costs application.



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https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Case number?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: cp8759 on February 01, 2024, 11:23:19 pm
Case number?

2230439332 (£38) costs hearing took place and 2230533614 (£95) not contested.  Both cases DNCed. Both paid - finally.  ::) All their paperwork now fixed. 
« Last Edit: February 02, 2024, 01:08:32 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: cp8759 on February 29, 2024, 05:58:46 pm
ICO Decision Notice.
Another possible avenue to contact the auditors?
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: Hippocrates on February 02, 2024, 10:52:50 am
Quote from: cp8759 on February 01, 2024, 11:23:19 pm
Case number?
All their paperwork now fixed.

Actually, not quite.  They still refer to service date in the first sentence under Enforcement Notice.


« Last Edit: March 17, 2024, 11:14:44 pm by cp8759 »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming traffic and issued with a PCN
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Quote from: John U.K. on February 29, 2024, 06:36:22 pm
Quote from: cp8759 on February 29, 2024, 05:58:46 pm

ICO Decision Notice.


Does this set a precedent?

Not really, as the ICO was not provided with any substantive arguments as to why the exemption applied. Another council could try and come up with a better argument. It only really becomes a precedent if it gets to the First-tier Tribunal, but I have a number of TFL cases headed that way at the moment.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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