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Well, it gives you both an email address and a postal address that you can write to, so I don't understand your statement that "I am not sure what else I can do at this stage": why don't you just send them an email with a copy of the pay & display ticket attached and explain what happened?
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

I sent an email to the address provided, but received an automated response indicating it may take up to 15 days to hear back. From what I’ve seen publicly, responses don’t always come through, which has left me feeling a bit uncertain about how to proceed. Additionally, I’m also concerned that, during this waiting period, I may miss the opportunity to pay the discounted amount (£40 instead of £80). I am trying to explore all possible channels to submit an appeal, but it appears there are limited options available.


Well you've submitted a representation, there isn't an expedited route to get a faster reply. You'll just have to wait.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

I sent an email to the address provided,

Pl post a copy here.

I seem to be able to access it all fine.

The first question would be where did you display the ticket, it doesn't appear obvious in the picutures.









Hi all,

I’m quite surprised that this information is accessible — I’m not sure how that is possible.

Regarding your question, I did not display the ticket. I didnt even know I should leave it on the car. My point, however, is that I ended up receiving an £80 penalty for a service I had already paid for. I paid the parking fee, but the fine is solely due to not displaying the ticket.

It’s frustrating because there are multiple systems in place — Ringo, PayByPhone, Europarks, and the machines in the Royal Parks — each with different processes. “It’s frustrating because there are multiple systems in place — Ringo, PayByPhone, Europarks, and the Royal Parks machines — each with different processes. At the time, I was dealing with my baby and was rushing, so my attention was on other things. I’m not trying to make excuses, but it’s genuinely frustrating to navigate these rules when the payment was made correctly. If I were being fined for something I hadn’t paid for, I wouldn’t bother arguing — I’d just pay it. But this time the situation is different. I just wanted to find ways to appeal the fine.

The ticket says on its front: Use sticker on back to attach to inside of windscreen.

Similarly(according to GSV) so do the traffic signs in Chester Road.

You obtained a ticket from a machine which I suspect carries a similar message.

The offence is not displaying the ticket.

In enforcement terms display of a valid ticket signifies that payment has been made and payment is what they're interested in.

IMO, you're on the brink of working yourself up as if there's a conspiracy of events and agents against you, but IMO there's no reason to do so.

To date you've received an ECN because at the time you had not shown that you had paid. That's it IMO. Don't ascribe all sorts of motives to NSL, you had not shown that you had paid, which you acknowledge.

Hopefully your email enclosed a clear copy of the ticket and was balanced as regards its comments in which case you give yourself the best chance of success. 

Now I've seen the back of the ECN, it reminded me I'd seen one of these before where they refer to the service of a Notice to Owner, which is not part of the Royal Park regulations and is therefore complete tosh; in fact most of the back of the ECN quotes stuff as if it were under the Traffic Management Act 2004, thus showing the complete ignorance of NSL of the regulations. Under the regulations, the driver has responsibiity not, (like the civil PCN regime) the owner.

A complete dog's Breakfast !