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Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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So I gather I have no choice but to pay it right?
No, you do have a choice, but if you decide to take them to London Tribunals, the full PCN penalty will be in play and as far as I can see looking back in the thread, so far nobody has come up with a good appeal argument. In a case like this, it very likely would be a "technical" appeal not related to the actual contraventions, but based on TfL mismanagement of the enforcement process defined in statute and associated regulations.

Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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Have a browse through the Road User Charging Adjudicators cases - you can see what they do. We don't tend to monitor road charging adjudications as they are often cut and dried and in London they all involve TFL.

But we also know TFL doesn't contest a lot of cases (parking/moving traffic - not sure about road charging).

https://londontribunals.org.uk/ords/pwslive/f?p=14952:30::INITIALISE::Y::&cs=3p-xIrMTzn7Fx1lDRyAqLHlVXj7WuaintamCkg8m_eBIn-Eq2w52yRYjVeKRbewy2_PpNe0tJOrwX6BMghcGQ9A

Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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So I gather I have no choice but to pay it right?
No, you do have a choice, but if you decide to take them to London Tribunals, the full PCN penalty will be in play and as far as I can see looking back in the thread, so far nobody has come up with a good appeal argument. In a case like this, it very likely would be a "technical" appeal not related to the actual contraventions, but based on TfL mismanagement of the enforcement process defined in statute and associated regulations.

I'm not sure I have the stomach to fight them at this point, I'm more concerned about forgetting I even have the PCN's and getting penalised, I think I may just take the bullet and settle, and from what you wrote I understand I don't have a good case, even though it is the truth of what happened.

Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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Have a browse through the Road User Charging Adjudicators cases - you can see what they do. We don't tend to monitor road charging adjudications as they are often cut and dried and in London they all involve TFL.

But we also know TFL doesn't contest a lot of cases (parking/moving traffic - not sure about road charging).

https://londontribunals.org.uk/ords/pwslive/f?p=14952:30::INITIALISE::Y::&cs=3p-xIrMTzn7Fx1lDRyAqLHlVXj7WuaintamCkg8m_eBIn-Eq2w52yRYjVeKRbewy2_PpNe0tJOrwX6BMghcGQ9A

That link doesn't seem to work for me?

Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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I paid both remaining PCN's today at the discounted rate. What a scam. Thank you everyone for trying to help.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2025, 09:38:23 am by pfenig »

Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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At least you tried. TFL's penalties are higher than other London authorities which makes it a bigger gamble to appeal.

They do sometimes make very generous offers for refused appeals - yesterday they let someone off 13 ULEZ PCNs by accepting the charge for each instead of the penalty - a massive saving.

Transport for London confirmed that they are willing to accept the discounted outstanding amount of £12.50, total £162.50 if payment is made and received within 14 days of the date of this letter. This payment can only be made by calling the contact centre during the opening hours. If full payment has not been made within 14 days, the penalty amount will revert to £180 for each contravention, total £2340 and Transport for London will be able to pursue its normal enforcement procedures. Adjudicators do not have the power to reduce the amount of the penalty or accept payments by instalments. Payments for penalties is a matter between the Appellant and Transport for London.

Re: A series of ULEZ PCN's expected. Heathrow Airport
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At least you tried. TFL's penalties are higher than other London authorities which makes it a bigger gamble to appeal.

They do sometimes make very generous offers for refused appeals - yesterday they let someone off 13 ULEZ PCNs by accepting the charge for each instead of the penalty - a massive saving.

Transport for London confirmed that they are willing to accept the discounted outstanding amount of £12.50, total £162.50 if payment is made and received within 14 days of the date of this letter. This payment can only be made by calling the contact centre during the opening hours. If full payment has not been made within 14 days, the penalty amount will revert to £180 for each contravention, total £2340 and Transport for London will be able to pursue its normal enforcement procedures. Adjudicators do not have the power to reduce the amount of the penalty or accept payments by instalments. Payments for penalties is a matter between the Appellant and Transport for London.

Wow, I'd like to read how that lucky person got around that, well done them.